When is the right time to buy the X2 4200+?

that is crazy people only do that in basments or in some room their not using that is crazy and you gotta change the water because it will get hotter and hotter

Waste of money just be 2 dual opty's and overclock them
 
DKdeadly said:
that is crazy people only do that in basments or in some room their not using that is crazy and you gotta change the water because it will get hotter and hotter

Waste of money just be 2 dual opty's and overclock them
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its not water lol...
its liquid nitrogen.
thats insane, too much maintenance!
not worth it. lol

btw omega the guy that ordered it for me needed money on his debit card.. good buddy of mine, but im glad he didn't cuz i decided water's too much $$ and maintenance so i just had him order me a zalman air cooler.
its the CNPS9500 LED the one with the loop-de-loop and a 92mm fan. much better than the crap i have right now lol...
 
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fade2green514 said:
its not water lol...
its liquid nitrogen.
thats insane, too much maintenance!
not worth it. lol
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Well of course, it's not for home use, it's to see how much can a CPU be OC'ed and I think you knew that.
 
Hmm, I can't believe how big this thread has got, but my question has not been answered yet. How much should the 4200+ price drop when the AM2 socket processors come out? What about the socket 939 motherboards and the DDR 1 RAM?

Just an estimate would be helpful! :D
 
Dialamo said:
Hmm, I can't believe how big this thread has got, but my question has not been answered yet. How much should the 4200+ price drop when the AM2 socket processors come out? What about the socket 939 motherboards and the DDR 1 RAM?

Just an estimate would be helpful! :D
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No one knows, it depends how much the retailers lower it, and how many people are buying them.

But the AMD2 3800+ will cost $303 at release, so its roughly the same price as the X2 3800+ now. I wouldnt espect it to drop that much at first.


-Geoff
 
omg Encore4More, you sure are a n00b when talking about OC'ing the X2 cpu's.
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and your not?
3800+ and 4200+ are the exact same chips
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not really, sure they may once have sat next to each other on the same waffer but they are not the same.

4200+ is an overclocked 3800+ (guaranteed to run at that speed)
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the last part is the crux of the matter, they are choosen because they are more stable at higher clocks.

Let's say you OC'ed a 3800+ to 2.4 GHz and then you say,

"Well, if I bought a 4200+ it would be running at 2.6 GHz", <= that's not true
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i agree, but thats only because no-one can ever say that. But as a rule it should oc more (on average) because:
apj101 a few line earlier said:
they are choosen because they are more stable at higher clocks.
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You've reached the limit, 3800+ is OC'ed to 2.6 and won't go past it,

"Oh man, I should have bought 4200+, it would be at 2.8 GHz now" <= Incorrect
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read this
http://www.computerforum.com/showpost.php?p=324557&postcount=50

Don't you get it?
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I dont think he's the only one around here who doesn't get a few things ;)


Ask someone who has a 3500+ how much has he managed to OC it, I've got mine up to 2.9 GHz at 1.6V
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what does that prove filip, oh wait i know BUGGER ALL!!!!!!!!!

You are being confused by some things.
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Thats becoming an all to common occurance around there 'ere parts
 
I can see you spent some time sitting and quoting me, not worth it IMO couse you really didn't prove much, I agree with you at some things. You probably think that you made me look stupid now, but I don't think so couse I know what I meant to say but I didn't couse of lack of my English knowledge.

Talk to you later, I'm kinda busy now.
 
filip-matijevic said:
I can see you spent some time sitting and quoting me, not worth it IMO couse you really didn't prove much, I agree with you at some things. You probably think that you made me look stupid now, but I don't think so couse I know what I meant to say but I didn't couse of lack of my English knowledge.

Talk to you later, I'm kinda busy now.
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yes he did prove alot of stuff, and yes he did make you look stupid...
even if u have poor english, u seem to be writing things fine, u have no bit of broken english in wut ur writing...

and im sure u really meant it when u said the 4200+ is just an overclocked 3800+and i wus a noob thinking it wusn't...

and then i go and find that the 3800+ is 10x 200MHz multiplyers, and the 4200+ has 11...
just face that u were wrong, don't blame it on broken english, which i see no traces of...
 
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and then i go and find that the 3800+ is 10x 200MHz multiplyers, and the 4200+ has 11...
just face that u were wrong, don't blame it on broken english, which i see no traces of...
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I said that in some of my previous posts here, I thought you knew that the only difference is the multiplier, and I want to add this, if you are planning to OC X2 CPU's the best option (if you have a tight budget) is to go with 3800+ or the 4400+, 4200+ isn't worth it if you don't want to OC,

and please, and I mean please don't say I'm stupid becouse most of my posts (opinions) are based on someone elses posts that I read here on in other forums, I'm not claiming anything without a backup. capish?
 
and please, and I mean please don't say I'm stupid becouse most of my posts (opinions) are based on someone elses posts that I read here on in other forums, I'm not claiming anything without a backup. capish?
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that's hardly a primary source of information is it? There is a lot of crap spoken here, and elsewhere. Who is more the fool, the fool or the fool who follows the fool. Your problem is not that you picked up a bit of incorrect information, that happens. your problem is your refusal to back down when corrected, there is word for that its stupidty
 
don't be too harsh on him we all make mistakes
everyone of us was a wrong someday, he was just trying to help the guy here
and filip-matijevic there is no shame in being wrong
 
i duno, all cpu's really are different...
the FX-60 is guaranteed to run at 2.6ghz tho, and the FX-57 is guaranteed to run at 2.8ghz...
what you can overclock them to though, nobody knows! :D
 
fade2green514 said:
i duno, all cpu's really are different...
the FX-60 is guaranteed to run at 2.6ghz tho, and the FX-57 is guaranteed to run at 2.8ghz...
what you can overclock them to though, nobody knows! :D
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well yea, no one core is the same... they all might have same design and archetechur (total spelling error), but one Athlon X2 4200+ might be able to OC to 2.9GHz, another mebbe just 2.6...
 
Encore4More said:
well yea, no one core is the same... they all might have same design and archetechur (total spelling error), but one Athlon X2 4200+ might be able to OC to 2.9GHz, another mebbe just 2.6...
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Well, 2.6GHz is still pretty good, its like an FX-60 at stock, but with 1MB of cache less.
 
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Well, 2.6GHz is still pretty good, its like an FX-60 at stock, but with 1MB of cache less.
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yea ik it is good... im just using that as an example, that a processor won't always OC the same as the other... (like 2 4200+ won't necessarily OC the same) close, but not always the same...
 
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