Which is Better? - Thanks
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bomberboysk
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Why would you spend the money on a 950/975, to be honest a 920 with a GTX295 and 6gb of memory would play pretty much any game, especially after overclocking.
Well, the actual price on System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3 is ~$300 cheaper than System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3. I know - hard to believe. I know I don't really need all this power right now, but I'm just trying to buy a PC that I don't have to upgrade in a few years. I'm sick of that hassle. The real problem is this: I've read so many horror stories about buying on line and returning defective merchandise that I just don't want to hassle with that. I was looking first at actually customizing at Velocity Micro's (VM) site and then I found that the Fry's in the my area is going to have system #1 available soon for quite a bit less money than the custom made VM (Sys#2). *Both* PCs are VM. If I buy from Fry's I can just take it in for any needed repairs. My experience with their tech dept. in the past has been positive. I'd get my machine back in a few days. If I buy direct from VM's site, and if something goes wrong... well, I don't really want to put myself through that. Their 'on site' (someone comes to my house) repair option is at *their own discretion*, and I've heard they usually *don't* send anyone. I'm just at the point in my life (I'm definitely what you'd call an 'older gamer') that I want as few problems as necessary. And money is not quite as much a concern as when I was younger. Oh, it's a concern alright - just not what it used to be...
.Thanks to all for your responses.
bomberboysk
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The cpu's are all the same, just the clockspeed more or less. You can overclock the i7 920 to sleeps the same as the 975. You want to have the best gpu possible though, as any of the i7 cpu's are not going to bottleneck a current gpu.Well, the actual price on System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3 is ~$300 cheaper than System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3. I know - hard to believe. I know I don't really need all this power right now, but I'm just trying to buy a PC that I don't have to upgrade in a few years. I'm sick of that hassle. The real problem is this: I've read so many horror stories about buying on line and returning defective merchandise that I just don't want to hassle with that. I was looking first at actually customizing at Velocity Micro's (VM) site and then I found that the Fry's in the my area is going to have system #1 available soon for quite a bit less money than the custom made VM (Sys#2). *Both* PCs are VM. If I buy from Fry's I can just take it in for any needed repairs. My experience with their tech dept. in the past has been positive. I'd get my machine back in a few days. If I buy direct from VM's site, and if something goes wrong... well, I don't really want to put myself through that. Their 'on site' (someone comes to my house) repair option is at *their own discretion*, and I've heard they usually *don't* send anyone. I'm just at the point in my life (I'm definitely what you'd call an 'older gamer') that I want as few problems as necessary. And money is not quite as much a concern as when I was younger. Oh, it's a concern alright - just not what it used to be...
Thanks to all for your responses.
Thanks, problem is, I cannot find a retail store that offers a GTX295 in any of their PCs.
Is the GTX 275 that much slower than the GTX295?funkysnair
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950? that is complete overkill, you do realise that the i7 920 is far more than anyone would need
it would take a massive gpu for the a i7 920 to become a bottle neck
amd dont do a xeon chip intel do and its a server cpu (expensive)
stick with a i7-920, 295gtx and 6gig ddr3-that is plenty power seriously
bomberboysk
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The GTX295 is two gtx275's on one board. How good are you with computers? Have you ever thought about building your own? Its not very difficult, and we can help you with a parts listThanks, problem is, I cannot find a retail store that offers a GTX295 in any of their PCs.
http://www.computerforum.com/104641-how-build-computer-step-step-photos.html
Fatback
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Like boomer said it would be better to build you own system it really easy to do. No the GTX 275 is no where near the GTX 295. 2 GTX 275=1 GTX 295 so you could get 2 GTX 275s or 2 ATI Radeon 4890s. The 950 does not have that much more power then the 920and is not worth the extra $300. Have you thought about using AMD at all.
The GTX295 is two gtx275's on one board. How good are you with computers? Have you ever thought about building your own? Its not very difficult, and we can help you with a parts list
I've been told by many people that the GTX295 is actually (2)GTX260s put together, not (2)GTX275's. Yes, I've thought about building my own and quickly discarded the idea because of the reasons I posted earlier.
I used to be really into computers and the inner workings, etc. I swapped many cards, hard drives, extra ram, etc in my day. That was 30 years ago...
Look, like I said, I just don't want to hassle anymore with the inside of a computer. You may understand better when you get to my age. That sounded a little condescending, but that wasn't the intent at all. I used to paint my house myself. Could I still paint my house? Probably. But I don't want to, so I'll pay a professional painter the next time I want it done. It keeps the economy moving. 
I'm not putting anyone down who wants to tinker with or build their own machines. Like I said, I used to do it myself. At this point in my life, I just want to have a computer that I can use for the internet, e-mail, access to information, and play incredible games. Without having to upgrade it in 2 years. I have the money for either system I was talking about. Am I going to go out and spend $6000 on a machine? No way! But $2500-3000 doesn't really bother me that much.What if I bought the system with the GTX275 and added another GTX275 to it in SLI in a few years if I was finding new games were starting to slow down? Wouldn't that work? I really appreciate all the comments from all you guys. Try to look at it from my point of view. If I could find a retail store that had an i7-920 or 940 and a GTX295 I'd snatch it up in a minute. But retail stores don't offer GTX295s in *any* of their machines...
Thanks *very much* for your help. Any further opinions w/b greatly appreciated.
Bodaggit23
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That's simply not true.
lol you mean the INTEL xeon? the one thats for servers? lol
OK, but 'PC Gamer' magazine's hardware section (I know, I know) and the salesman on the phone at VM did say that it was (2)GTX260s.
But, we're getting away from what my original question was:
"All things else being equal, which would be a better system for gaming:
System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3
System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3
Just trying to find out if that GTX295 nVidia would make up for the obvious better specs of sys #1..."
And also:
Couldn't I just put in an extra GTX275 in SLI down the road?
Thanks a lot.
bomberboysk
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the 975 technically isnt a better cpu..unless you plan on overclocking under ln2 or dry ice then an i7 920 is really all you need.
CardboardSword
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If you really aren't that concerned about the cost, I'd say go for the GTX295. The i7 is spectacular either way, regardless of pricing discrepancies and all that nonsense. You'll start to notice a bottleneck a lot faster with the 275 than the 295, and depending on your motherboard/PSU, SLi in the future may not be a viable option. As for the ram, 6 gigs is more than anyone will ever use these days and is definitely the simplest to upgrade in the future.