Will DX9 Cards Become Obsolete????

martyvice

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I want to buy a 7900GT or a 7950GT, but my question is, How long will these cards be able to handle the next gen games for.

Will game makers immediatly start making super next gen games which you will only be able to have max setings on a DX10 card?

How long do you figure I'll be able to have max settings on next gen games with a 7950 GT?



P.S. And is the 7950GT the best video card on the market, besides SLI/Crossfire?
 
Max settings depend on amount of RAM and CPU as well, but as far as purely graphics are concerned I would say at 6 months if I had to guess, longer if the rest of your system was top of the line as well. It really is hard to say.

But being able to play games well would be longer, I'd say a year at slightly lowered settings.

That is really a vague question though....

THE BEST.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814195024

I think...
 
I have a card that DirectX 8.1 complient, but it's better than some of the DirectX 9 cards out today! Of course it's not's really up to date, but I'm just trying to show how the version of directx the card's "compatable" with does not directly influence the card's overall performace or obsolete...ness :P

Haha... I've not read up on all the differences planned in DX10, but I can still see there being a huge difference between say a cheap DX10 card and an expensive DX9 card...
 
Well I really don't want to wait, and I fon't really want to buy two cards.

I won't be able to afford a high end DX10 card, when do the mid range DX10 cards come out and how much should they be?


And I thought it would last me more than 6 months!!!!!!, I am looking for a computer build that will last me 3-5 years!

I am getting a E6400, 1 GB of Corsair Ram, and upgrading my PSU.
 
More info!

1. What resolution do you play at?

2. Adding 1gig of ram will help a lot too. (for a total of 2gigs).

2. 3-5yrs is a long time for 1 computer to last in gaming terms.
 
Look at top of the line computers 5 years ago and see how they stack up nowadays, they would barely function with today's games.

edit: hell 5 years ago AGP was either just out or just making an impact, now AGP is all but obsolete as far as high end is concerned. 5 years from now there PCI-e may be done with....
 
Look at top of the line computers 5 years ago and see how they stack up nowadays, they would barely function with today's games.

edit: hell 5 years ago AGP was either just out or just making an impact, now AGP is all but obsolete as far as high end is concerned. 5 years from now there PCI-e may be done with....

Concur. :D :P ;)
 
I usually play at 1024x768, but I might play at higher resolution with my new rig.

I want it to last at least 3 years, 5 is too much.

So should I go with a 7950GT or maybe a X1900xt?
 
too quote someone from a different thread..on a different forum...

After reading the "who can list the greatest computer??" thread it's interesting to think about how big an upgrade my current computer is over the first computer I owned 20 years ago, a commodore 128.

Current PC: 3.2ghz 64 bit core 2 duo
C128: 6510 8-bit CPU @ 1.023 MHz
New Vs Old: 25,600 times
20 years from now: 81,920Ghz equivalent (maybe 3.2Ghz with 51,200 cores)

Current PC: 2 gigs of ram
C128: 128kb
New Vs Old: 15,625 times
20 years from now: 31 terrabytes

Current PC: 320 gig hd
C128: 170kb drive
New Vs Old: 1,882,352 times
20 Years from now: 600,000 terrabytes

Current PC: 1920x1200(2,304,000 pixels) Display
C128: 320x200 (64,000 pixels) Display
New Vs Old: 36 times
20 Years from now: around 12,000x8,000 or 82,944,000 pixels

Current PC: 113 Keys
C128: 90 Keys
New Vs Old: 1.26 times
20 Years from now: 142 keys

Current PC: 700 watts
C128: 40 watts
New Vs. Old 17.5 times
20 Years from now: 12,250 watts

Please check my math, my calculator doesn't use commas so it was somewhat hard to read with all those zeros

Should get ya a feel of how fast things progress, 3 years is still lofty...
 
A new DX standard doesn't necessarily mean anything. Look at my FX5900XT. the FX series was the first to really support DX9, but it gets owned by more powerful DX8 cards in alot of games. Just because it suports the new pixel shader options and all that, doesn't mean it has the, for lack of a better term, "balls" to use them. Same with the X1600 from ATI today. Sure, it has SM 3.0, but it doesn't have the "balls" to play games with all the eye candy. So..what is the point of having the capability of eye candy, if a card doesn't have the power to.

Now, this isn't to say the G80 won't have the power. Just looking at the specs so far, they're definately going to rock. But, what about the midrange cards? When they cut the memory bandwidth, or the memory arrangement, or shader clocks to move the G80 into a different segment - how will it perform in DX10 intensive tasks? DX9 tasks? A 7950GT may end up performing better then the 8600GT does in DX9 tasks (It's a chance, we don't know for sure yet), and in DX10 tasks the 8800GT may not have the "balls" to even perform these properly and/or effectively.

To address the question of the move to DX10 in games: It's questionable. A large amounf of people see the movement to DX10 as taking alot of time. DX10 cards are going to be costly, both the cards adn the systems to use them (PSU, CPU, RAM). So, they may alienate a significant number of mainstreamers from playing/buying the game.

What I want to see? Games staying DX9 for the next year and a half, but for them to go back afterwards and offer a DX10 patch for the game to augment the game and let those early adopters really reap the benefits of the G80, or the R600 when it comes out. Or perhaps release an "expansion" which brings the game to DX10. That would be acceptable in my eyes.
 
well im not a huge gamer so this is of little concern to me. But the move to dx10 is an bigger step that dx8 -> 9. It will be great to see the new g80 and r600 ranges to see what dx10 can do in the real world examples.

It's not that the dx9 card will become obsolete overnight, for most games will still run dx9 for a while yet. My concern (or so I believe) is the dx9 legacy version within vista, since dx10 is not backwards compatible. You just know that vista dx9 is going to be buggy as hell at first, making any dx9 user reluctant to game on vista.
 
Game designers aren't going to be creating DX10 games for quite some time (I heard around a year after the Vista release, then pretty much all games will be DX10)

So really, there isn't much need to upgrade to the G80 purely for the DX10 aspect, because your not going to have any DX10 games to play for several months.
 
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Game designers aren't going to be creating DX10 games for quite some time (I heard around a year after the Vista release, then pretty much all games will be DX10)

So really, there isn't much need to upgrade to the G80 purely for the DX10 aspect, because your not going to have any DX10 games to play for several months.

Crysis is going to be released in the first quarter of 2007, and it is DX10 game.

Also, you don't need DX10 games to buy G80. G80 is going to be much faster than older cards in DX9 games. So, you can buy G80 to play dx9 games, and you will not loose any thing.
 
Crysis is going to be released in the first quarter of 2007, and it is DX10 game.

Also, you don't need DX10 games to buy G80. G80 is going to be much faster than older cards in DX9 games. So, you can buy G80 to play dx9 games, and you will not loose any thing.

From what I heard, there aren't going to be any games for a while, however they may have meant there wont be many DX10 games for a while.

The point being that buying a G80 purely for the DX10 aspect could be a waste, especially if the R600 comes out before many DX10 games are released.
 
hell 5 years ago AGP was either just out or just making an impact, now AGP is all but obsolete as far as high end is concerned. 5 years from now there PCI-e may be done with....
AGP came out almost 10 years ago.

And back 5 years ago, AGP was already making a huge impact.
 
So is it going to be worth buying a DX10 card? Worth Spending more money? Worth waiting for them?

Im a looking to buy a Video card and I dont want to be left out right when I buy it. Right when I finally get a good card. Im I going to want/have to change it right away if I buy one right now?
 
so here is another way of asking...is it better to diamonds or glass that is shaped to look like diamonds...

it all depends on what you do and what people you hang around with...you'll never look like a loozer around people that know nothing about diamond if you have glass around your neck...but if you hang around wealthy people with glass could be devastating for your reputation....

you feel me?


go for what you can handle...and if you need to show of, change your way of thinking...and hang with people persons...they dont care about anything...
 
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