Wireless internet / flat mate nightmare.

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mikeote

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My landlord rents out 6 flats next to each other with about 20 people in total sharing the same wirless internet connection, it's 48mb connection but goes super slow as soon as any one starts downloading, and especially when every one gets home from work.

Is there any way to set a download speed limit ? So when some one donwloads at full speed it doesn't go super slow for the rest of us.

Please let me know about any hardware or software required. The router is belkin wireless G and we use range extenders in each flat.

Many many thanks if you could help as this is extremely frustrating =/
Regards,
Mike
 
Well first off it's not a 48Mb connection, thats the connection you have with the wireless router. The internet connection is probably in the 1-6Mbps range.

Theres nothing you can do if your just a client on the network, but if you have access to the router you could change around port priorities and such.
 
I wouldn't be a darn bit surprised if simply getting a better router would help you out. I mean just an example, some of the better Belkin routers run at 125MHz, where your typical Linksys runs at 200Mhz. 20 people's a lot on a single consumer router...

As for limiting their download speeds, I don't know of anything right off without setting up some sort of server for the connection to go though(and I'm still not totally sure about that...) I checked my router and I don't see an option, so DD-WRT probably wouldn't be of any use...
 
Thanks for your replies, It's a 48mb deal with the isp.

Yeah there are alot of people downloading movies / music etc, my question was:

Is there a way I can limit the maximum download speed ?

This should ensure decent surfing speed for those not downloading.

Thanks
Regards,
Mike
 
thanks for the replies

It's a 48mb deal with the isp.

How is the share of the connection determined ? For example if there are 10 people online trying to download at max speed is the bandwidth shred equally or does the guy with the strongest link to the router get the biggest share ?

What do you think the isp would say if I asked my landlord to call the isp and ask them to limit the d/l speed of any one file being downloaded ?

That would stop one or 5 people who are downoading moves etc from taking all of the bandwidth, can this be done with a piece opf hardware or software ?

Please advise if you know !

(OmEGA I can get access to the router, how could I limit the donwload speed by changing the "port priorities" ? )

Thanks !
Mike
 
mikeote said:
How is the share of the connection determined ? For example if there are 10 people online trying to download at max speed is the bandwidth shred equally or does the guy with the strongest link to the router get the biggest share ?
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Its supposed to be "smart" and completely controlled by the router itself, although some routers do a very bad job at it... In theory yes, it should all be equal if you're all doing the same stuff, but if one person is downloading they will have a higher share because the router thinks it's needed

mikeote said:
What do you think the isp would say if I asked my landlord to call the isp and ask them to limit the d/l speed of any one file being downloaded ?
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This type of problem is not something the ISP can alter or have any control over, its completely up to the router and the connections from that

mikeote said:
That would stop one or 5 people who are downoading moves etc from taking all of the bandwidth, can this be done with a piece of hardware or software ?
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It is possible, (everything is), but its not easy, and im not even sure of how to go about it, logically thinking (if the router is not up to it) then you would need to route the connection (incoming) through a server or a gateway, either way these would have to be makeshift, and onvolve an actual PC somewhere along the line. Then have your connec tions coming from that PC instead of the router, on that PC you would have your connection distribution software running...

This is all me theorizing, i dont know if this can be done, but thats my logic there...

mikeote said:
(OmEGA I can get access to the router, how could I limit the donwload speed by changing the "port priorities" ? )
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Port Priorities, not something i've heard of before, but if its to do with ports then probably not, all connections to the outside world (for web at least) will be handled through port 80, this cant be distinguished via individual connections it's more of a global setting rather than an individual one.

dragon2309
 
Thanks for your responses =)

I asked on another computer forum and got this response:

"The low-cost option:

Buy a NAT router that allows you to set up something fairly simple (Class-based quality of service = CoS). So down-prioritize the torrents/ftp so that other traffic types have responsiveness.

I believe the DLink gaming router has something like this and you can prolly pick one up for ~$100 US. It'll last forever and lots of people in forums tout this product.
http://games.dlink.com/products/?pid=370"

Can you see any problems with that or do you guys think I should go for it ?

Thanks !
Mike
 
My question about the Wireless 108G Gaming Router is:

I checked out the page for the Wireless 108G Gaming Router, it says priorities can be set for:

Data
VOIP
Media
Email
Games.

And I need it to down-prioritize the torrents/ftp can any one confirm it has the advanced settings for torrents and ftp ? Or possibly the only options are the ones above ? As downloading from torrents and surfing the net would both be classed as "Data" which would make the router useless to me.

Does any one know if it can limit the download speed of say downloading a large file from a html download link such as www.example.com/example-file.mp3 without at the same time limiting surfing speed ?

Thanks !
Mike
 
Not having any experience with that router, i cant say for definate, but i would still presume that it would work on ports rather than assesing each individual request that goes out.

So basically, it would not be able to distinguish between a normal page request on a website and a file request (example.mp3) as they run on the same port (80)...

But yes, you could however put torrents on a lower priority depending on what ports they use, i know that programs like azureus ( a common torrent client) runs on port 6881 up to 6885, it wouldn't take too long to find out what the other torrent clients run on and prioritize the same.

Again, i havent used that router, and dont know 100% who it works, so im only guessing

dragon
 
Thanks again for your reply dragon =)

Hmm, it looks like I will get it and de-prioritise every port accept port 80, and the port/s which voip uses, i don't know any thing about ports, would voip software use only one port ? Or would the different software use different ports ?

If different I can find out the ports which skype and voipcheap the 2 most popular ones use and that should be ok.

Thanks alot for your help !

Mike.
 
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