help needed for upgrade

kelly_paul

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hey guys im kinda new here so all the help i can get would be muchly appreciated :)

ok so heres the thing, im wanting to upgrade some of my computer parts these being:
motherboard
prcoessor
ram
monitor

so heres the thing. the main reason for upgrade is simply i want a much faster computer (i wouldnt embarass myself by telling you my old specs) lol

and also im wanting to download and watch high def movies now (reason for monitor upgrade)

ok so heres the things i have came up with and would like to know ...would they all fit in place lol

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145258
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140061
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130842

im pretty sure about the ram and prcoessor being ok but withs the motherboard and monitor im concerend about. which brings me to my main question:
will i be able to play HD movies with these 2 pieces of equipment. what is putting me off is ive talked to a couple of guys and they were saying yes and no...so im aksing your opinions. E.g. something to do with no HDMI slots? does tht matter? one guy told me yes, another told me no...please a little help?

Paul
 
Need more info, but...

I commend you on the do it yourself determination it takes to attempt a first time computer build. It can get intimidating, for sure, but keep a cool head and dont be afraid to ask questions. Good Work.
CHances are, that if you decide to swap the mobo, processor, etc. you will have to install a fresh copy of windows on a formatted drive(NTFS file system) after the build is complete, so keep that in mind, and back up everything you dont want to lose in a secure location.
Dealing with the HD issue is, well, expensive. If you wish to tackle that make sure you get a graphics card that is from a well known provider (nVidia or ATI for example) so you get the support you need if you need it. MAKE SURE the motherboard supports your choice of graphics card, preferrably PCI-Express x16 because the older AGP is also MUCH slower, in laymens terms, a porsche versus a moped. One thing to consider is ATI's Crossfire and nVidia's SLI. Which are dual graphics cards, for increased performance and gaming entertainment. Make sure the monitor and graphics card/s have the same I/O(Input output) VGA, DVI, HDMI or whatever else crazy connectors you decide you are compatable with. DVI and HDMI are high def, only difference is DVI does not include an audio channel. Just have to use a sound card, or the integrated Motherboard audio.
For processor and ram, this is not required, but for maximum performance, ensure that the Front Side Bus(Reffered to as FSB a majority of the time) speeds match accross the board. IE, the mother board has an fsb clock rate of 1066MHz(Maximum) so you would want to purchase the corresponding FSB clock rate CPU and RAM.





All this being said:
I have just reviewed your decisions and here are some conflicts worth considering.

#1 Motherboard and Processor's FSB do not match, so the proccessor will slow the motherboard down, BUT 1066 is fairly zippy, so this should not be a problem.
#2 Ram is slower than processor, more of a big deal at 800MHz meaning the entire motherboard will run at the slower 800MHz. Still Zippy, just not as Zippy
#3 Monitor is not dvi compatible. Big Deal, No hd without component, hdmi, or dvi. CHoose another monitor




Other than that contact me with further questions at [email protected]
 
thanks for your reply m8 :) been a gud bit of help, gettin a bit more understanding from it now.

so first things first, im all about speedin up my crapppy amd 3200 single core lol. so moving to intel.

ok can we dicuss the motherboard and processor firstly then?

what i was looking at the motherboard; the motherboard can take up to a 1333, but also states it can take 1066, so would it really matter that much?

also with talking to some guy who "thinks" he know about computers, says that the motherboard i have chosen wont support HD becuase he's convinced you need HDMI slot for it?


and as for the ram, u recommed i just find one with a higher FSB?
thanks again

Homework

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142405 = ram

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145258 = processor

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129895 = DVI motherboard

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138627 = monitor with dvi input?

have revised my components and taken what you said into account, how do these look m8?

P.s IF you can find cheaper solutions please say :)
 
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That motherboard will not run that processor. Also that motherboard only supports ddr2 533 or 667 not 800 or 1066. That motherboard is only 945g chipset which has major limitations. Find either a p965 or a p35 chipset. Double check with motherboard cpu support list from manufacturer before buying items.
 
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ok thanks for all the responces guys so heres what i THINK ill be getting:


http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145258 = Processor (1066MHz)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140061 = Motherboard (1333MHz Max)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142405 = Ram (1066MHz)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138627 = Monitor (DVI input)

ok so Blakspire:

# Ive checked that the motherboard can take upto 1333, so it will support 1066 im sure?
# Upgraded ram so it now has 1066
# Monitor is now DVI compatible

JohnB

Went back to old motherboard, as it supports 1066 as well, and that is what my processor will be. Chipset is now P31. i aint looking a super super computer, but im sure this will be fast enough for me.

Amd Fanboy

Thanks for that information m8 :) will be looking for new graphics card now

Daisymtc

Took into consideration what you said and went for the first motherboard. going to think about that chosen graphics card, as its an improvment on my current one, but depending on money, i will choose that or a slightly better one :)

thanks guys. if there has been any problems in what i have said or im still doing something wrong please let me know
 
Video card: I suggest HD3450 due to its price. And apperantly, you are not going to game. Or may be get HD3650 GDDR3 if you can afford

RAM: There is no point to get DDR2 1066 RAM. You probably would not notice the difference

Monitor: would you consider having 22"?
A 22" monitor is around £150...
Also would you consider having a TV as monitor? In case you want to watch TV...
 
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only game i will be playing is world of warcraft :P
as for ram, only reason i chose that particular one is due to having 1066 processor
and nope, i want a big ass monitor :P lol currently have a 19" but 22" dnt seem like a big enuf upgrade so im wanting 24" lol
yeh i have considered a tv, but only 26" (as cant seem to find 24" TV's ) cheapest i found wasnt a good choice for a monitor as i was goina splash out a lil more for it http://www.ebuyer.com/product/136348

and thanks for your opinion on graphics cards, if they are good for wow i shall get one of those
 
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Just because you can put a 1066 bus speed processor in a motherboard doesn't mean you can use 1066 memory. You have to look at what the motherboard supports.
 
Just because you can put a 1066 bus speed processor in a motherboard doesn't mean you can use 1066 memory. You have to look at what the motherboard supports.

GA-P31-S3G do support upto DDR2 1066. But RAM speed do nothing with CPU bus speed...
 
only game i will be playing is world of warcraft :P
as for ram, only reason i chose that particular one is due to having 1066 processor
and nope, i want a big ass monitor :P lol currently have a 19" but 22" dnt seem like a big enuf upgrade so im wanting 24" lol
yeh i have considered a tv, but only 26" (as cant seem to find 24" TV's ) cheapest i found wasnt a good choice for a monitor as i was goina splash out a lil more for it http://www.ebuyer.com/product/136348

and thanks for your opinion on graphics cards, if they are good for wow i shall get one of those

The price of that TV looking good, only problem is I don't know the brand...
 
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