recovery disc

Vista preinstalls are even more bound to a system there with MS insisting on that from pc manufacturer's. You can still see recovery disks made up if you lose the one included. But it will be limited in capacity.

For a prebuild seeing the original hard drive fail a trip to the service center for a new drive and totally new preinstall or simply buying a full install disk along with any softwares separately becomes the two choices. (well some might simply download Linux... :eek: :P )
 
PC eye said:
Discussion of copying protected materials is against forum rules!
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I never said copy them yourself, but if a shop is willing to do it for you then the responsibility lies with them.

It CLEARLY says on the disk"do not make illegal copies of this disk"

NOT

do not buy copies of this disk :rolleyes:

And anyway... I wasn't discussing it- I was just making a helpfull statement!! you started the discussion not me :D

@imsati

Thank you bud ;)
 
1.6 Back-up Copy. YOU MAY MAKE A SINGLE
BACK-UP COPY OF THE SOFTWARE.
YOU MAY USE ONE (1) BACK-UP
COPY SOLELY FOR YOUR ARCHIVAL
PURPOSES AND TO REINSTALL THE
SOFTWARE ON THE COMPUTER.
EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY PROVIDED
IN THIS EULA OR BY LOCAL LAW,
YOU MAY NOT OTHERWISE MAKE
COPIES OF THE SOFTWARE, INCLUDING
THE PRINTED MATERIALS ACCOMPANYING
THE SOFTWARE. YOU MAY NOT
LOAN, RENT, LEASE, LEND OR
OTHERWISE TRANSFER THE CD OR
BACK-UP COPY TO ANOTHER USER.
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nope, looks like the OP is screwed
 
Not that I want to get into this because it's now bordering on forum rules violation but:-
1.6 Back-up Copy. YOU MAY MAKE A SINGLE
BACK-UP COPY OF THE SOFTWARE.
YOU MAY USE ONE (1) BACK-UP
COPY SOLELY FOR YOUR ARCHIVAL
PURPOSES AND TO REINSTALL THE
SOFTWARE ON THE COMPUTER.

So how they going to prove that the "back up" copy you have in your possesion is not the "backup" of the original disk you had in the first place and lost which was the idea of the "back up"? Damn I love legal loopholes ;)

Let's end it here ;)
 
yes but he hasn't got a disk to back up... that's the point!!! he doesn't own the original ;)
 
Then obtain a legal backup and use a valid Key. It's not that hard... This is just another classic example of PC saying something, someone jumping on board and saying 'yeah! yeah!' because PC obviously knows what he's talking about (hence 19k+ Posts), and nobody ids getting anywhere as a result.

So again, get a legal copy of XP (whether you borrow it, or get a legally-made backup), get a valid Key, and install the damned thing. It's honestly that simple. There's less involved to it than what goes on inside Paris Hilton's head. I'm done with this Thread; if folks (not you sg1) fail to choose to see the obvious, I'm not going to waste any more of my time. The OP can either enjoy a painless Install using the method I mentioned, or continue to get ran around the bushes from the other two.

Peace.
 
Technically, you are not allowed to lend out your original or backup copy of Windows, but I don't really have a problem with that being discussed here. If someone had suggested downloading the OS via torrent or P2P, they would've received an infraction. In this case, it seems like the recovery method would be the best approach, although (as imsati suggested) the OP could simply do a fresh install with a XP CD and download all the hardware drivers from the HP website.

In other words, yes, I've been keeping an eye on this thread from the beginning, and I don't believe any rules have been violated.
 
PC eye said:
Otherwise you would have to go through an HP dealer to see those ordered or if an older system buy a new full install disk and simply download all updated drivers/software.
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mep916 said:
Technically, you are not allowed to lend out your original or backup copy of Windows, but I don't really have a problem with that being discussed here. If someone had suggested downloading the OS via torrent or P2P, they would've received an infraction. In this case, it seems like the recovery method would be the best approach, although (as imsati suggested) the OP could simply do a fresh install with a XP CD and download all the hardware drivers from the HP website.

In other words, yes, I've been keeping an eye on this thread from the beginning, and I don't believe any rules have been violated.
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It wasn't imsati that first indicated the possible need to simply go out and buy a full install disk and download the necessary drivers for the board and other devices like expansion cards.

In actually MS and the rest of the software industry knows people make backup copies. But as long as those more or less "stay at home" their generally more interested in other things that violate their licensing agreements.

Now that is said... whew! :P
 
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GREY AREA alert!!!!!!!!!
time for a little clarity (or maybe ill jsut make something up here)
I know giving someone a copy of a windows cd is technically against the rules, but Im ok with it being discussed AS LONG AS we know that the user does have a geniune copy of windows. Technically we should be telling these users to call microsoft and ask for a copy of a windows cd which the user can installing with there own reg key....but lets not split hairs
technically its a license infringement, but its a real minor one as long as we are sure the user has a valid cd key which they acquired by legal means
 
apj101 said:
GREY AREA alert!!!!!!!!!
time for a little clarity (or maybe ill jsut make something up here)
I know giving someone a copy of a windows cd is technically against the rules, but Im ok with it being discussed AS LONG AS we know that the user does have a geniune copy of windows. Technically we should be telling these users to call microsoft and ask for a copy of a windows cd which the user can installing with there own reg key....but lets not split hairs
technically its a license infringement, but its a real minor one as long as we are sure the user has a valid cd key which they acquired by legal means
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And how do w eknow he actually has a genuine copy of Windows ? ;)
 
Because we trust people to not take the pi*s out of us on CF!!!!

TBH.. it's so petty when I have actually spoken to a M$ call centre and been told that it's the product key(the bit you pay for) which is the bit they are concerned about not the disks themselves, you aint never gonna stop the disks from being copied but... you CAN prevent people from activating illegal product keys (untill the next smart ass 12 year old comes along with a patch anyway ) ;)
 
Someone brought an older eMachines model to have me look at but left the full install disk for XP Pro/SP2 at home and had called the support for a link there to download the iso images for creating a set of recovery disks.

Problem? Link on machine with no floppy drive and strictly a cd rom. Plus have to log in with serial number and other personal information by owner.

Solution? Simply wipe the drive and use the XP Pro disk to replace the original XP Home preinstall.

For the OP's friend the options are simply creating a set of recovery disks following HP's instructions, order them through HP dealer, or simply buy a full version(retail or oem) to see new install go on with a new product key and be able to reinstall Windows at any time if the need arises.

If the system is brought in for seeing Windows put on at a shop you end up paying out nearly as much as the price on a retail disk at this point. But they have to have a guaranty that the installation works. There you pay service as well as seeing a new recovery disk or disks ordered. If a drive is upgraded later or quits the full version disk bought separately would save on costs to consider.
 
The few live cds for some distros are certainly valuable tools at times. By making up the set of recovery disks the product key on the sticker should work right away being the number for that machine to begin with.

Live for cd-r Linux distros come in handy when you can't access a drive or partition through Windows. With those seeing files even folders copied over somewhere for retrieval can save the day at times. But the main idea now is simply seeing Windows up and running again.
 
Actually you can do that in normal Windows as well or set the system to bypass all passwords with a registry edit in XP and automatically see the desktop. The capture here is in Vista while in the normal mode.



By adding a couple of string values you can also eliminate the need for any password in XP by simply adding the two values here without quotes of course. First go to:

"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version\Winlogon"

And simply add: "AutoAdminLogon" highlighting that and choosing the modify option from the edit dropdown menu. You simply type "1" in as the value to seen in the data column.

The second is "DefaultPassword" where you can type a specified password of choice or leave that blank to see the system auto load to the desktop. You still need administrative access however to see that done.

A system restart then sees the registry tweak there put into effect. But it does save on having to answer a user prompt on a single user machine every time you start it up.
 
sg1 said:
just to say...

You can recover the XP password without knowing it and reset it ;)
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Do not discuss how to reset/retrieve/circumvent an admin password. Why would you bring it up in the first place? :confused:

apj101 said:
Just to make sure our position is clear on a few rules which seem to be being broken.

This includes anything which we believe to be a hacking attempt eg
1. How do i recover my admin password
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http://www.computerforum.com/109167-rules-reminder.html#post873564
 
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