AMD announce 22nm

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AMD First to 22 Nm, Challenges Intel6:30 PM - August 18, 2008 by Wolfgang Gruener
Source: Tom's Hardware US


Yorktown Heights (NY) - IBM and its chip development partners, including AMD, made a stunning announcement today, apparently beating Intel in the successful production of the first functional 22 nm SRAM cell. 22 nm processors are still three years out in the future, but IBM’s news is a good sign that chip manufacturer will be able to easily scale to this new level by the end of 2011. It appears that, for the first time in several decades, Intel may have to put some extra time into its research and development efforts to make sure it can keep its manufacturing lead at 22 nm and beyond.

SRAM chips are typically the first semiconductor devices to test a new manufacturing process as a precursor to actual microprocessors. The devices developed and manufactured by AMD, Freescale, IBM STMicroelectronics, Toshiba and the College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE) were built in a traditional six-transistor design on a 300 mm wafer and had a memory cell size of just 0.1 μm2, which compares to Intel’s 45 nm SRAM cell size (the test chip that was used for today’s 45 nm processors) of 0.346 μm2.

A 22 nm chip is two generations out in the future and AMD even has to catch up with Intel’s 45 nm. Intel presented the first 32 nm SRAM cell wafer in September of last year and in fact is not expected to show 22 nm SRAM cells for at least another year, while first 32 nm CPU prototypes could be shown at IDF this week.

IBM said that it is on track with its 32 nm process and promises that it will use a "leading 32 nm high-K metal gate technology that no other company or consortium can match." IBM did not provide further details to substantiate this claim, however, Intel has been using its high-K metal gate technology since the introduction of the 45 nm Penryn processors in late 2007.

While we are far from actual 22 nm and 32 nm products, it is clear that IBM and its partners are turning up the heat on Intel. For the first time in decades, there could actually be an interesting race towards a new production node.
 
Wow, 22 nanometer technology on the horizon. Good to hear Advanced Micro Devices may not go in the toilet.

It is so amazing that there are 1 billion nanometers in one meter. I wonder how they will measure when computer chip technology get smaller than 1 nanometer?
 
a picometer is one trillionth of a meter, so 1 nm would be 1000 pm. the size of an atom is 100 to 500 picometers, so I dont think we'll get too much smaller than 1nm.

it will be 20 years before there is a 1nm transistor if they keep the current pace.
 
a picometer is one trillionth of a meter, so 1 nm would be 1000 pm. the size of an atom is 100 to 500 picometers, so I dont think we'll get too much smaller than 1nm.

it will be 20 years before there is a 1nm transistor if they keep the current pace.

Hopefully by then we'll have some breakthrough with quantum computing so 150 um would be a common size for a wafer.
 
lol ok i understood that AMD news but the rest of this, i ain't got a clue what you guys are on about :confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
[-0MEGA-];1056787 said:
22nm is the size of the process, 45nm is currently the smallest for consumers.

what is a process? how big is 45nm? like in mm.
reson im asking is, if you look and a picture of the core in a chip, its just different colour blocks and you cant see any transistors or any link between them.
 
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You can't see them because they are almost microscopic! 45nm = 45 nanometers.

1mm = 1,000,000nm
 
WHAT :eek::eek::eek::eek: how the beep do they get them that small?

Processor technology is amazing isn't it? Did you know the number of transistors in a Phenom 8750 Triple-Core processor is 450 million? An Intel Q6600 Quad-Core processor I think has even more transistors.
 
Pfft...Intel's been working on 11nm for over a year. They expect to have 11nm chips manufactured by 2013.
 
joke or true?

No, that's true. They don't talk about it much (no reason to); there was some mention of this in MaxPC awhile back. They've claimed anywhere between 2013-2015 for 11nm. Of course, schedules are usually delayed, but I'm just sorta pointing out that 22nm is great, though not really that new, or much of a breakthrough. I'd like to see AMD back in the CPU game, but I'm guessing that Intel will have something better by the time AMD releases their 22nm fab.
 
What the hell has AMD been doing lately anyways? Nehalem's right around the corner, and Intel's been working on Sandy Bridge (Nehalem's follower) for some while by now. AMD? The only thing I've heard they're doing is patching up the bloody Phenoms and lowering prices to the point they're hardly making any revenue off them. Anyone know what they're doing to get back into the game?
 
Pfft...Intel's been working on 11nm for over a year. They expect to have 11nm chips manufactured by 2013.

I read somewhere that Intel guarantees having an 80-core processor in 5 years. Now, 2013 is five years from now. So maybe the 11nm processors would be those 80-core...

Question, Why is it a big deal if the proccesors are getting smaller and smaller?

They consume less energy, therefore less heat ;) That's one reason I guess
 
Question, Why is it a big deal if the proccesors are getting smaller and smaller?
When the processors are made smaller, they require less voltage to operate, hence they consume less power and produce less heat. Also, as the transistors on the chips get smaller, their switching behavior improves which allows for higher clockspeeds.
 
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