Boy Killed Parents to Play Halo 3

thermophilis said:
I really disagree with you here, like Moto said, the kid would have found another way to do it, it wasn't the gun.
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Anyway in Halo 3 , surely you can carry upto 3 weapons? so he would have chosen a melee one if he had to!!:rolleyes:

On a more serious note, Graphics in games are sooo realistic nowadays that it's easy for young impressionable,creative minds to get the reality and fantasy worlds entwined and caused all kinds of situations that would not otherwise be ever imagined:(
 
thing is, as someone has said, he hadnt actually played the game yet... so strictly speaking it wasnt what was in the game, but the existance of the game that caused the problem.

I think there was a similar discussion about this when GTAIV was released and someone got stabbed in a queue and the game was blamed...
 
Another reason why I would never own a gun. Come up with nice-sounding justifications and ideals if you want, but guns kill more than they protect. A lot of people, in a fit of rage or temporary insanity, can do nothing but fume, punch something, or scream. But if there's a gun nearby, guess what they're going to do? Why are people so obsessed with owning them?

For every time someone protects his family with a gun in the house, there are probably five people who accidentally hurt themselves or end up using it in a regretful way.

In this case, it's the gun and the parenting. I'm sure they loved him and all, but a 17-year-old should not be baby-ed so much and have games held from him like that. A lot of guys would rebel against parents like that, but again, not every guy in this situation would have access to a gun.

And no, I'm not some anti-gun activist. I just think people are kidding themselves when they think it's harmless and it's all the killer's fault. Honestly, it's a whole lot easier (and "cooler," more elegant) to shoot someone than to be crazy enough to repeatedly stab or bludgeon someone to death. I can actually imagine--though it's extremely far-fetched and will never happen--coldly pressing the trigger on someone and really regretting it right after. I can't imagine in my wildest dreams killing someone in any other way.

This reminds me of the father who lovingly (and stupidly) taught his very young son how to shoot. Not long after, the son shot his father (and some other guy) dead for no apparent reason. It takes a lot of maturity to own a gun, but unfortunately, there's no way to guarantee it won't fall into the wrong hands. It all-too-often does.
 
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We will never know the answer to that until it happens.
Here in England as you know we are not a gun culture race.
The gun culture which we are getting now(IMO)in my country is not native to this country.
And before you all call me racist,alot off the gun crime in my country is carried out by black people,same as knife crime.
Sorry i have gone off the thread.
 
Moral of the story...parents don't discipline your kids or you will be thrown in jail or killed by your offspring.
 
What were all those video games that the Nazi's played when they were rounding up all the Jews and slaughtering them? What game was that, that made them get so violent?

What gun did they use to kill Casear in the Roman Empire?

What gun did they use to kill Jesus?

It is jacked up, but humans have been doing this since the beginning of time. Guns and video games aren't the problem, we are the problem. It is us that are flawed, not the technology we use to entertain or defend ourselves.
 
tlarkin said:
What were all those video games that the Nazi's played when they were rounding up all the Jews and slaughtering them? What game was that, that made them get so violent?

What gun did they use to kill Casear in the Roman Empire?

What gun did they use to kill Jesus?

It is jacked up, but humans have been doing this since the beginning of time. Guns and video games aren't the problem, we are the problem. It is us that are flawed, not the technology we use to entertain or defend ourselves.
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Monumental, historic turning points are different from kids shooting their parents for no good reason. Yes, bad things have always happened, but some of it could be prevented. Kids killing their parents was a much bigger deal before, and it certainly wasn't this easy.

Even the most stubborn person would have to admit that the irresponsible availability and use of guns at least contributes to some deaths. And just because violent video games don't affect you doesn't mean they don't affect some impressionable, insecure kid or teen. I'm not saying it's the whole cause or even the biggest cause, but it still does contribute.
 
Gun control in DC increased violent crime, look it up. States with strict gun laws have no less crime that states with relaxed gun laws.

Legislation doesn't prevent crime. The father had the gun locked up, the kid broke into the lock box and go it. Sounds to me like he was a responsible gun owner. The only down side is that the kid some how got the key to the lock box.

The kid has serious issues. Murder happens all day every day all around the world. In the name of liberty, religion, politics, wealth and goods, control, oppression, this is human nature.

While I will say having a gun around you increases your chances of being shot over not having a gun around you, but they aren't the problem. People are, and have been since the beginning of time.
 
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tlarkin said:
Gun control in DC increased violent crime, look it up. States with strict gun laws have no less crime that states with relaxed gun laws.

Legislation doesn't prevent crime. The father had the gun locked up, the kid broke into the lock box and go it. Sounds to me like he was a responsible gun owner. The only down side is that the kid some how got the key to the lock box.

The kid has serious issues. Murder happens all day every day all around the world. In the name of liberty, religion, politics, wealth and goods, control, oppression, this is human nature.

While I will say having a gun around you increases your chances of being shot over not having a gun around you, but they aren't the problem. People are, and have been since the beginning of time.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
i dont like this either

cuz just cuz stuff like this happens they always try to make it look like video games are too violent im for the violence tho cuz its apart of our culture i feel if you get mad why not play a video game and take out your violence in a gta game sure pick up a few prostitutes in a gta 4 game and do a drive by on some pedestrians it beats doing it in real life and then doing 10 to 15 hard time years cause of it

i just feel parents should sign a paper when they let they young kids that are underage play all these rated M games i was on call of duty 4 on ps3 a few months ago and this lil kid was playing cuz he asked me how old he was and he was being really nasty with me had the worst attitude claiming he was better then me the noob couldnt get as many kills or score like i was and i said what are you what 14? hes like no im younger then i was in shock cuz i was like wow how somebody gonna let some lil kid play rated m games im getting sick of this kind of stuff and then when they hurt somebody for real its the developers fault they shouldnt put a game like that on the market im tired of it i really am i feel congress should pass a bill saying that if someone is gonna purchase a rated m game that they will have to sign a agreement that those companies are not responsible for if they child shoots someone or acts out the game in real life.

i go into gamestop to buy games they ask for my id im glad im not as young as i used to be but i was even one of those young ones who would play games like mortal kombat but i was different i knew not to do what was in the game i knew better but i guess not everybody's children does
 
No, it is in no way the guns fault of the games fault. The kid obviously had some mental issues. And since people are irresponsible and let there underaged children play rated M games we should all have to suffer?? Why? Same deal with guns, Guns dont kill people, people kill people. If there were no guns at all then demented kids would kill with other options. Guns are safe, it all depends on who owns it. Guns should be locked up, away from the reach of anyone but the owner, and yeah if someone really wanted it they could get it. But thats how people are.

tlarkin said it great and yeah he pointed out some Historical turning or whatever but you know that people were being murdered back then too. Just not with guns.

I am 100 percent for the rights stated to us in the Second Amendment Of our Constitution. Hell if guns were illegal 200 years ago when people were saying they were dangerous, then the USA as we know it would not exsist.
 
tlarkin said:
Gun control in DC increased violent crime, look it up. States with strict gun laws have no less crime that states with relaxed gun laws.

Legislation doesn't prevent crime. The father had the gun locked up, the kid broke into the lock box and go it. Sounds to me like he was a responsible gun owner. The only down side is that the kid some how got the key to the lock box.

The kid has serious issues. Murder happens all day every day all around the world. In the name of liberty, religion, politics, wealth and goods, control, oppression, this is human nature.

While I will say having a gun around you increases your chances of being shot over not having a gun around you, but they aren't the problem. People are, and have been since the beginning of time.
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while that might be true. (wich i suppose it is) Its most likely because you can get guns jsut about everywhere anyways. I think the treshold for someone to shoot another person is lower when they actually have a gun already, rather than still have to get one.
guns dont cause crimes.. but you have to admit they make them a lot easyer.
 
Not nessesarily (spelled really really wrong, shh). They just require less planning. That is why you have to wait a week between the time you purchase a gun and the time you are allowed to pick it up if you dont have a license. The boy could just have easily slit his parents throats or stabbed them to death while they were sleeping, and the dad prolly wouldnt have made it out of that one.

It comes down to people, not guns.
 
Archangel said:
while that might be true. (wich i suppose it is) Its most likely because you can get guns jsut about everywhere anyways. I think the treshold for someone to shoot another person is lower when they actually have a gun already, rather than still have to get one.
guns dont cause crimes.. but you have to admit they make them a lot easyer.
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OK, look at Switzerland. They are required to serve in the military between like 18 and 20, and then they are required to keep their service weapon. So, theoretically every Swiss person has a fully automatic SIG 552 commando (which I think is standard issue) in their home. They have more guns per a capita than the USA, yet they have way less violent gun crimes. Why is that? They don't have any gun laws and gun control is non existent there?

99% of guns used in crimes are guns that have been acquired illegally. You still must pass a background check to buy a gun. I own a couple guns and I had to get my background checked as well. If you fail the background check you don't get the gun.

Prohibition didn't stop drinking. Making murder illegal doesn't stop people from committing it.

While, I will say that more guns does not equal a safer society, but gun control is far from the answer.
 
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