Intel Pentium P4 3.06 GHz getting too hot. Why?

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Green Xenon

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Hi:

I have a Soyo SY-P4I845GVISA Plus MoBo with an Intel Pentium P4 3.06 GHz. I regularly check the hardware monitor and it warns me that the CPU temperature is 77 Celsius. This has been happening for a long time. I sent my PC to Staples [an office supply and computer store] to help me with the issue I posted about in http://www.computerforum.com/168161-problem-soyo-sy-p4i845gvisa-mobo.html they said they've repaired the PC but the Soyo HW monitor still tells me the CPU temp is 77 and give me a warning beep through the PC speaker.

What's going on here?


Thanks,

Green Xenon
 
You most likely need to remove the heatsink/fan and clean the old thermal paste off and reapply new.
 
Hi:

I have a Soyo SY-P4I845GVISA Plus MoBo with an Intel Pentium P4 3.06 GHz. I regularly check the hardware monitor and it warns me that the CPU temperature is 77 Celsius. This has been happening for a long time. I sent my PC to Staples [an office supply and computer store] to help me with the issue I posted about in Problem with Soyo SY-P4I845GVISA MoBo they said they've repaired the PC but the Soyo HW monitor still tells me the CPU temp is 77 and give me a warning beep through the PC speaker.

What's going on here?


Thanks,

Green Xenon
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Green first thing is if your over clocking the CPU to 3.06ghz you might want to try jumping down in block of 10's to get a stable clock, if your not over clocking it could mean that you don’t have proper thermal contact between the heat sick and the CPU, just as johnb35 advised

you can view the CPU temps in your bios if you weren’t aware, but by sounds of it your Heat sink is not on properly, CPU Clock could be unstable @ 3.06ghz or Mean you don’t have sufficient Air Flow

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johnb35 said:
You most likely need to remove the heatsink/fan and clean the old thermal paste off and reapply new.
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Hi. Sorry for the delayed response. I took my PC to a Staples store to have them check on it, they said they couldn't find anything wrong with it. They suggested that I don't need to redo the thermal paste.

If 77 Celsius was too high wouldn't my PC experience symptoms other than simply the H/W monitor beeping -- because I'm not. The PC seems to be stable. I'm still worried though.

I've read the specs and the "case temperature" is 69 Celsius. What does this mean?


Thanks,

Green
 
Green Xenon said:
Hi. Sorry for the delayed response. I took my PC to a Staples store to have them check on it, they said they couldn't find anything wrong with it. They suggested that I don't need to redo the thermal paste.

If 77 Celsius was too high wouldn't my PC experience symptoms other than simply the H/W monitor beeping -- because I'm not. The PC seems to be stable. I'm still worried though.

I've read the specs and the "case temperature" is 69 Celsius. What does this mean?


Thanks,

Green
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If you have the stock thermal paste on, change it, and clean out your heatsink. The stock stuff is crap, get som AC5 and stick it on there and hoover off your heatsink (do it while it is out of the computer because vacuum cleaners build up static)

Case temperature is the ambient temperature. If that is correct, your CPU is doing good to be at 77 really. If you buy a couple of extra 120mm fans, mount one at the bottom front of the case infront of the hard drives, mount the other at the back of the case. What that will do is draw in cold air from the front, it will be pushed to the back, as it heats up it will rise and be sucked out from the back. That will drop the case temp quite a bit, meaning colder air is being used to cool the CPU, meaning the CPU should be quite alot cooler.

I wouldn't trust staples or any other big business like that, 90% of their employees don't have a clue about computers other than what was taught on a couple week training course, which is the square root of naff all
 
77 degrees for a processor is reaching its upper limit before it will shut down. Like said, don't trust any big box store. Clean off the old thermal paste and apply new and add some case fans if you can.
 
johnb35 said:
77 degrees for a processor is reaching its upper limit before it will shut down. Like said, don't trust any big box store. Clean off the old thermal paste and apply new and add some case fans if you can.
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Before I do that I'd like to get into the BIOS to see if the temperature is indeed 77 Celsius.

How do I get into the BIOS settings for the Soyo SY-P4I845GVISA Plus motherboard?
 
When you bootup the computer, it should tell you what key to press to enter setup. Should be del, f2, f10.
 
Green Xenon said:
Before I do that I'd like to get into the BIOS to see if the temperature is indeed 77 Celsius.

How do I get into the BIOS settings for the Soyo SY-P4I845GVISA Plus motherboard?
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the button to get into it is what John said, however, remember that when you first turn your system on, your CPU is at room temperature and only just starting to climb, and as being sat in the bios uses close to 0 processor time, you would be better off starting your system, using it for 20-30 minutes, restarting, THEN going into bios and seeing. Bare in mind it will probably have cooled down 10 degrees maybe by then, but 67 is still on the high side
 
as long as it is just the processor heating up then you just need to either put thermal paste on the bottom of the heatsink and then place it back on top of the processor this should solve the problem
 
Aastii said:
the button to get into it is what John said, however, remember that when you first turn your system on, your CPU is at room temperature and only just starting to climb, and as being sat in the bios uses close to 0 processor time, you would be better off starting your system, using it for 20-30 minutes, restarting, THEN going into bios and seeing. Bare in mind it will probably have cooled down 10 degrees maybe by then, but 67 is still on the high side
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In BIOS the CPU is at 100% of speed (no down-stepping), but zero load. After a few minutes in BIOS, you'll have a very good reference of your Idle CPU temp. All of my system builds will spend 5-10 minutes sitting in BIOS (just a case with fans, MoBo, CPU/HSF, RAM and PSU) before any other devices are attached and software is loaded.

But as mentioned before, P4's ran hot; however, they were also able to withstand higher temps. Anyway, I would do as Aastii and others have said: re-apply some good TC, clean the heatsink, and add another fan if you're able to. If your system is in a desk cabinet, make sure you have good airflow in and out (maybe open the door and make sure there's an open space in the back for the rear fans to properly vent the warm air). If it's close to the floor and near a vent, you could try moving it, too.
 
imsati said:
In BIOS the CPU is at 100% of speed (no down-stepping), but zero load. After a few minutes in BIOS, you'll have a very good reference of your Idle CPU temp. All of my system builds will spend 5-10 minutes sitting in BIOS (just a case with fans, MoBo, CPU/HSF, RAM and PSU) before any other devices are attached and software is loaded.
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I know that, what I mean though is that because it is an older CPU, even something like web browsing, watching videos etc will cause it to be under fairly high load, so although we are used to watching a video on our newer dual/tri/quad cores and having it at low usage, just every day tasks will be causing temps to rise, so restarting will giver a truer picture of the operating temperatures, not just idle
 
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but in all seriousness, take off old thermal paste and put this on make sure the heatsink is tight and use a different program, like everest or check the temps in the hardware monitor in the bios.
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Doesn't look like I need to change the paste after all. I checked the BIOS on my PC after leaving it on for more than an hour. The temp was 46 celsius. I'm so relieved!!!!
 
Yes, that would be the idle temp, which is still very high, my idle is about 28c, i also have a pentium 4 and it idles at 35c, so i would check that out still.
 
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