i5 750 vs II X4 965 Black

jarlmaster47 said:
actually you don't. I know WAYYY more about computers then you will ever hope to know. Everyone knows that clock speed is not the major factor in cpu power. its calculations per second. and intel has amd beat in that department period. an i7 at 2.66ghz will take an x4 at 3.2ghz any day. hell even at 4ghz the x4 would still lose
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1. Do you or do you not agree.

AMD desktop processors from the XP Athlon in 2000 to the Athlon 64 was faster clock for clock then Intel processors till the Core 2 was released in 2006.

2. Do you agree or not agree

AMD had the first monolith dual and quad core. AMD dropped the FSB for Hypertransport first. AMD had onboard memory controller first. Intel uses AMD AMD64 patent for 64 bit.

If you dont agree, show me proof. Not a paragraph of gibberish.
 
Bottom line of the discussion is as follows: AMD would not be where it is in the world without Intel. Intel would not be where it is without AMD. Both companies were crucial in the development of the central processing unit and other computer technologies. Both companies have pushed our technology to where it is today.
 
2048Megabytes said:
Bottom line of the discussion is as follows: AMD would not be where it is in the world without Intel. Intel would not be where it is without AMD. Both companies were crucial in the development of the central processing unit and other computer technologies. Both companies have pushed our technology to where it is today.
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Agreed, if not for being two companies. We would be buying 500 buck 1ghz. processors.
 
Aastii said:
to OP, what jarlmaster is is a fanboy. You could be comparing the 965 to the 4004 and he would still be claiming the 965 isn't as powerful.





@ bold, cotradiction much?

Intel DID create the first microprocessor, however, they did not create the most succcessful microprocessor did they :) Also, look up some benchmarks/real world results from overclocked AMD and Intel processors. You will find that above 4GHz the difference between a 965 and i7's is minimal, and in alot of scenarios, AMD takes the lead easily.

A little more on topic, I'd recomend the 965. Both processors perform similarly, but the price pushes it to Intel, aswell as the ease of overclocking. The intel's aren't difficult to overclock (for someone that understands overclocking that is), but the AMDs are much easier to overclock than the intel's for novice's
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Only where the graphics card is involved. Even today's most powerful GPU's will bottleneck any CPU as powerful as those.
 
i've seen fanboys and the like here before, but it's rare to find someone as clueless as this man here.

there are umpteen different ways one cpu can be faster than another. for example, a processor clocked at 4ghz with very low memory bandwidth would probably perform poorly, no?

jarlmaster47, frankly you should leave. Convincing people to spend their hard-earned money on a product that you have no personal experience with is ridiculous and immature. As an OWNER of the i5 750, and having read many reviews on both processors in question, i come to the conclusion that the i5 is the better choice. in a non-overclocking situation, the 965 might be better because of it's chipset capabilities and future expandability, but overall the i5 performs faster right now.

Personally, I believe fanboys that spout claims of speed should be banned on sight. its hopeless to argue with idiots.
 
I would Get the 6 ore phenom over the 965 and i5, i think the 2.8 ghz one is only $320 or $270, umm its one of them prices.....
 
The Phenom II X4 965 and Core i5 750 are about the same speed. Both have different advantages. The i5 750 has turbo boost. The 965 has an unlocked mulitplier. Personally, I would get the i5 750, but that's just me.
 
I would not get either of those 2. If you are going to spend $200(CDN) on a processor, why not just get a PhenomIIx6 1050T for $220? It will perform better than both those processors and is more futureproof. You might the the same gaming performance from the 965 and 1050T right now with some games but newer games that use more cores will run better. I have already found that games like Empire Total war and Supreme commander run better on my six core than my 965, the minimum framerate is way higher in those games at max settings. It's only an extra $20. Plus you can always upgrade to bulldozer later on. The i5 750 is a great processor as well, I have one, it works great but it seems socket 1156 is a dead end.
 
Leopold Butters said:
I would not get either of those 2. If you are going to spend $200(CDN) on a processor, why not just get a PhenomIIx6 1050T for $220? It will perform better than both those processors and is more futureproof. You might the the same gaming performance from the 965 and 1050T right now with some games but newer games that use more cores will run better. I have already found that games like Empire Total war and Supreme commander run better on my six core than my 965, the minimum framerate is way higher in those games at max settings. It's only an extra $20. Plus you can always upgrade to bulldozer later on. The i5 750 is a great processor as well, I have one, it works great but it seems socket 1156 is a dead end.
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You have a point there with the 6 cores, but I think that LGA 1156 is still going to thrive: 1366 is probably going to die. Also, isn't bulldozer going to use an entirely new socket, or did I hear wrong? Is it one of those things like AM2+ to AM3 where the new socket just supports more features? Basically, if you want Intel, get the 750, but if you want AMD, just get the hexa-core instead of the 965.
 
I can't seem to find the article that i was reading a while back, but I thought that it was going to be on the AM3 socket. I'm not sure though maybe things have changed.
 
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I've heard the first bulldozer will be AM3. Its suppost to have a dual/quad channel DDR3 memory controller. So there will probable be something like a AM3+ board for the quad channel support. Kinda like the way AM3 processor support AM2+ boards with DDR2.

Plus there will probable be another socket for the bulldozer that will have onboard video/Fusion.
 
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