Separating System and Data

ErikAlbert

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Hello everybody,
I first tell a story about what I did and then we can share thoughts about it.

What do I mean with system and data ?
System = Windows + Third Party software, I need to do my job.
Data = documents, spreadsheets, photos, video,... in general any data-file from any software, including my emails and email-address-book (Thunderbird) and bookmarks (Firefox)

There is a big difference between system and data, at least to me.
If I lose my system, it's never a disaster, it's only annoying, because I always can re-install my system, manually (the hard way) or by restoring an image (the easy way, my way).
If I lose my data, it's always a disaster, because I worked very hard to get them.

Most computers have only one harddisk with one large partition, called "C", where system and data are stored together.
Disk-C is the most attacked disk by malware, because everyone has disk-C.
Long ago, my disk-C was the same and all my data was stored in several subfolders under "My documents" together with Windows and all my other softwares.

So all my precious data was stored on the most attacked disk-C and that was bothering me alot and I decided to separate my system and data.
In the beginning, I created two partitions "C" and "D" on my only harddisk, but that wasn't safe enough, because when a disk-crash (physical damage) occurs, I would lose both partitions.
Later on, I bought a second harddisk "D" to store all my data.

After that, I removed all my data from disk-C and stored it on disk-D organized in folders and subfolders.
I also wished, that every data-file, I created with a software on disk-C, was automatically stored on disk-D, to avoid any manual cut/paste from disk-C to disk-D, because that would be very annoying and time-consuming.
That was easier than I thought, because each software has folder-settings, I only needed to change them one time.
Nevertheless, I had two major problems : Firefox (bookmarks) and Thunderbird (emails + email-address-book).
I discovered on the Mozilla-website how to split Firefox and Thunderbird in two parts, which was explained in full detail, so that was easy.
Later on I discovered, that the Firefox-split was causing problems because of the add-ons, I installed.
I didn't have any problems with the Thunderbird-split, because I didn't install any add-ons on Thunderbird.
So I installed the complete Firefox back on disk-C. Then I discovered the add-on "Delicious Bookmarks",
which allowed me to store my bookmarks on the internet.

The separation of system and data was completed and working properly and the final result was :
Disk-1 with partition "C", containing Windows and all Third Party Softwares, including all software-settings.
Disk-2 with partition "D", containing all my precious data.

I discovered several advantages of this separation.
1. System doesn't change alot, once each softwares has its proper settings,
so I didn't have to do a daily backup and that saved me time.
2. Data changes all the time and requires a daily backup and I choosed "Karen's Replicator", an old-fashioned freeware, to backup any change in my data-files (not a full backup), which usually takes 5 minutes,
This also saved time and I would never lose my data, the most important files on my computer.
3. I can do anything I want with disk-C without being worried about my data.
Whatever I do with disk-C, it doesn't matter, my data is always safe.
4. Later on I discovered other advantages, but that's another story.

What do you think about separating system and data ?
Any members who did the same thing, any practical experiences or troubles ? Any objections ?
Any possible disadvantages ?

I'm interested.
 
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I agree with you ErikAlbert. I don't like how Windows automatically puts most programs in the "Program Files" folder. When I install programs I create another folder entitled "Various Programs" and put the installed programs in there.

I also have another folder entitled "Miscellaneous". I have different folders in this Miscellaneous folder entitled Folder A, Folder B, Folder C and so on to Folder H. I organize and store my valued data in these folders and copy the Miscellaneous folder to a second hard drive about once every two weeks. I also copy the Miscellaneous folder to an external hard drive about once every 50 days.
 
I agree with you ErikAlbert. I don't like how Windows automatically puts most programs in the "Program Files" folder. When I install programs I create another folder entitled "Various Programs" and put the installed programs in there.

I also have another folder entitled "Miscellaneous". I have different folders in this Miscellaneous folder entitled Folder A, Folder B, Folder C and so on to Folder H. I organize and store my valued data in these folders and copy the Miscellaneous folder to a second hard drive about once every two weeks. I also copy the Miscellaneous folder to an external hard drive about once every 50 days.
Yes, it was a very good idea of you to use total different names for these data-folders, because many malware use the names of the classic Windows folders, to infect these folders. I did the same thing using different names.
Thanks for your reply.
 
you might also be interested in this backup program which ive used for years. Its strictly for firefox and or Thunderbird. It backs up everything individually. (everything) its freeware.
Puts it back just like it was. it also backs up other programs.

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
 
you might also be interested in this backup program which ive used for years. Its strictly for firefox and or Thunderbird. It backs up everything individually. (everything) its freeware.
Puts it back just like it was. it also backs up other programs.

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
thanks for the suggestion, but I won't need it.
I have an Image Backup of disk-C stored on an external harddisk, including Firefox and Thunderbird.
My bookmarks of Firefox are stored on the internet (Delicious).
Emails and email-address-book of Thunderbird are stored on disk-D and I do a daily backup of disk-D, so I can't lose any of them.

I wanted my disk-C totally data-free without any exception, so my bookmarks, emails and email-addres-book had to be stored somewhere else and certainly not on disk-C.
All my data on disk-C was an obstacle for the next step, so I had to move it to somewhere else.
Separating system and data was a preparation to make other things possible.
 
it was conversation only. Just letting you know. I have two drives and an external i backup to. I was just letting ya know. I have hundreds of pictures and personal data i back up up to. about every 3 mo. backing up firefox with all the plug-gins and thunderbird i do separate.
cheers....
 
You need to have your user create data stored at least twice, on different drives, or other media to be safer from loss.
 
You need to have your user create data stored at least twice, on different drives, or other media to be safer from loss.
Of course, that's why I have an external harddisk of 2 TB to backup my system and my data.
My Image Backup software is stored on a CD, which means, in case of a disaster, I only need my Image Backup CD and my external harddisk to save my skin.
I also have a tool on CD to zero my harddisks, because there are very destructive malware on internet that damage your harddisk in such a way, that even your Image Backup CD doesn't work anymore.
I also have a partition software in reserve.
Thanks for your reply.
 
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