Cloning Serial ATA Hard Drive to Parallel ATA

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I have been using Norton Ghost Version 15 to attempt to cloning a Serial ATA hard drive to Parallel ATA drive.

Once I do this I cannot get Windows XP to boot on the cloned Parallel hard drive. It almost gets to the Windows XP logon screen then it freezes. Does anyone else have issues trying to clone a Serial ATA hard drive to Parallel ATA drive?
 
Can't say I've ever tried it. See if you could try booting into last known good configuration and see if that works.
 
Heck, I have an issue trying to properly clone from one XP Boot on a SATA drive to another XP Boot on a SATA drive. This machine has four HDDs in it, three of which are identical SATA drives and the fourth is an IDE drive.

The main boot Drive is a SATA drive in a SATA hotswap tray. I planned it that way so in case I have problems with my boot drive, I could just take it out and stick in a fourth identical SATA drive in an identical SATA hotswap tray that I keep in reserve. I also put a boot partition on one of the two internal SATA drives and "Cloned" my removable Boot drive to it as an extra precaution to insure access at all times.

BUT : Although I can boot from either of the two boot partitions by going into the bios and setting which drive has boot priority, (Main in SATA hotswap tray, or secondary on internal SATA drive), that only works while the main boot partition is in the machine. As soon as I take that SATA hotswap tray out of the machine and replace it with the reserve SATA hotswap tray to clone the OS onto it, the Secondary boot drive will no longer boot. SIGH !! That is to my mind a BAD job of "Cloning", something vital must be missing.
 
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Sounds like a driver hangup. Was the sata drive running in sata ahci mode. Have you tried booting in safe mode?
 
Should start my own thread, don't want to hijack his; but in answer to your questions, XP does not support Ahci mode, so no to that one; and no I have not tried safe mode. Suppose I should. Now please try to help the guy who started this.
 
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Should start my own thread, don't want to hijack his; but in answer to your questions, XP does not support Ahci mode, so no to that one; and no I have not tried safe mode. Suppose I should. Now please try to help the guy who started this.
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I was asking 2048Megabytes.
 
Just throwing something out there: you could try Clonezilla:
http://clonezilla.org/
I had to deal with hours of stupid crap when cloning a drive once (eventually tuned out that the drive I was trying to copy from was failing. *Facepalm*. I ended up not cloning at all, just reinstalling everything on the new drive, due to the fact that the original drive ended up dying altogether...:angry:). I tried pretty much every possible free cloning program, and I found Clonezilla. It's been my cloning choice since then.
 
I will have to try cloning again and then try Safe mode. Thanks for all the information so far from everyone.

Never heard of Clonezilla before. I like to use Shredzilla for wiping hard drives.
 
Oops, one would think that I would know the names of the programs on my own computer. The name of the program I use to wipe hard drives is "Zilla Data Nuker."
 
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Well, this is odd. I tried cloning again using Norton Ghost and the cloned drive works if I have my original drive plugged in. When I unplug the original hard drive my cloned hard drive will almost get to the Windows sign on screen and then it hangs. I also tried safe mode with the cloned drive. It will not even start into safe mode either.

But I got this error code last time I cloned the drive:

http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k133/Stopping_Power/?action=view&current=ErrorCode-1.jpg
 
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After you clone the drive, on the first boot are you unhooking the old drive? If not you need to. If you dont want to do it over try unhooking the old drive and boot to your XP cd and run a fixmbr and fixboot from recovery console.
 
Did you set the master/slave jumper in the right place? P-ata drive has jumper setting right? just a thought. I have used diskcopy to clone my ide hdd to sata hdd. but didn't do the other way round.
 
I am sure the jumper settings is set to master on the Parallel ATA drive. I will try cloning again and do what you said Stranglehold. I erased the cloned drive already.
 
set the jumper to cable select on teh IDE drive before you boot again. Taking the "slave'' (which it is trying to force your SATA to be) will cause a hangup with the master. The CS setting only needs 1 drive to work, but will work with multiple drives (Its the only setting I use. Sets the origional drive as "c" and the new one as "e" drive).
 
I do not understand what your are trying to suggest Wolfeking. Setting the Parallel ATA to slave while cloning then switching it to master?

I did all you said Stranglehold. It still is not working. Even tried Fixboot then FixMBR. Neither worked. The cloned Windows XP drive is still hanging on the start up. Safe mode doesn't work either.

Edit: I did a Google search on "Error EC8F17B3"

And this is the suggestion I found:

Before performing the clone, delete all the partitions on the destination drive (your new drive). Do not format it. This unformatted drive is shown as unallocated space. It should then work.
 
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there are 3 Jumper settings on every PATA device. Caable Select, Master and slave. Dont use the master/slave, use the cable select jumper. You can not master/slave with a SATA and PATA
 
2048Megabytes said:
I do not understand what your are trying to suggest Wolfeking. Setting the Parallel ATA to slave while cloning then switching it to master?

I did all you said Stranglehold. It still is not working. Even tried Fixboot then FixMBR. Neither worked. The cloned Windows XP drive is still hanging on the start up. Safe mode doesn't work either.

Edit: I did a Google search on "Error EC8F17B3"

And this is the suggestion I found:

Before performing the clone, delete all the partitions on the destination drive (your new drive). Do not format it. This unformatted drive is shown as unallocated space. It should then work.
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Right, the clone software will partition and format it. Just start with a blank drive.

Back to what I asked. Do you have the SATA your coping from in SATA mode (AHCI). That could be one problem. If so, go into the bios and set the SATA ports to IDE mode and reboot before you clone.

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there are 3 Jumper settings on every PATA device. Caable Select, Master and slave. Dont use the master/slave, use the cable select jumper. You can not master/slave with a SATA and PATA
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Your confusing the issue. There is no master or slave on a SATA bus. And I'm pretty sure 2048 doesnt have two drives both set as master or slave on the same IDE channel.
 
You are right StrangleHold. I only have one Parallel ATA drive hooked up to my system. My other hard drive and optical drive is Serial ATA.

Well, I figured out what I was doing wrong. Norton Ghost Version 15 wasn't programmed to clone to a formatted and partitioned hard drive. I just deleted the partition on the drive I wanted to clone to and now it is working fine. Thanks for all the help everyone.
 
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You are right StrangleHold. I only have one Parallel ATA drive hooked up to my system. My other hard drive and optical drive is Serial ATA.

Well, I figured out what I was doing wrong. Norton Ghost Version 15 wasn't programmed to clone to a formatted and partitioned hard drive. I just deleted the partition on the drive I wanted to clone to and now it is working fine. Thanks for all the help everyone.
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Typically ghosting (imaging) a computer works best if you can block copy the image from the source to the destination, and block copy works best if the drive is wiped. The block copy aspect also copies over file systems.

Also if you do not erase your destination there can be remainders of the previous file system and if they had issues then you can retain those issues.
 
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