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ChrisUlrich

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Any word on these yet?

I read that the 600 series won't be showing its face until late 2011? Only asking because I am looking to get a GTX 580 soon and if it was coming out in roughly July, I would still be eligible for the eVGA step up program! Wohoo
 
the top card for nvidia just came out, im sure it wont be for awhile till they start introducing the new cards.

and when they do, a card that will beat the 580 probably wont be shown even later
 
I wouldn't expect a new series from either companies until around christmas/new year. If they fail to deliver by then, most likely what we'll see is a release after Chinese New Year. By release I mean commercial availability, information and bench scores, videos, biased/yesman opinions from sponsored reviewers, etc. You'll drive yourself nuts waiting to get a card till the next version/series comes out though, because something always is and the second you put cash down you'll question it. The 5xx series is real good, cooling compared to the gtx470/480 is at a respectable level. Unless some new tech is developed like dx12 or significantly better drivers, a gtx570/580 should be plenty of power and a remorseless investment.
 
Russ88765 said:
I wouldn't expect a new series from either companies until around christmas/new year. If they fail to deliver by then, most likely what we'll see is a release after Chinese New Year. By release I mean commercial availability, information and bench scores, videos, biased/yesman opinions from sponsored reviewers, etc. You'll drive yourself nuts waiting to get a card till the next version/series comes out though, because something always is and the second you put cash down you'll question it. The 5xx series is real good, cooling compared to the gtx470/480 is at a respectable level. Unless some new tech is developed like dx12 or significantly better drivers, a gtx570/580 should be plenty of power and a remorseless investment.
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I would feel remorse at the purchase of a 570, because I paid a hell of a alot more than I would for a 6950/6970, but didn't get any extra performance from it.

A 580 though, I would be happy with, but wouldn't get one other than for bragging rights, a 6950 is plenty for anyone playing anything. If you want physx, spend the money you saved on a GTS250 or something as a dedicated Physx card, which will give better performance
 
That was a damn near perfect answer... hahahah thanks a lot man.

I wouldn't be getting a 570 though. Benchmarks show that the GTX 295 is right up there with it. And I just RMAed my 295 and according to the people at eVGA, I should be getting at least a 570 back if they don't have any 295's in stock. I would be pretty upset if I get the 570 considering the 580 is the only card "of equal value or better performance."

Are there any ATI cards you'd take over the 580 that are single GPU?
 
Aastii said:
I would feel remorse at the purchase of a 570, because I paid a hell of a alot more than I would for a 6950/6970, but didn't get any extra performance from it.

A 580 though, I would be happy with, but wouldn't get one other than for bragging rights, a 6950 is plenty for anyone playing anything. If you want physx, spend the money you saved on a GTS250 or something as a dedicated Physx card, which will give better performance
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I don't get the dedicated Physx Card thing. Why would that yield me better performance? If I don't have one, what am I losing? I didn't have one with my 295 setup, was I supposed too? What would I notice? What would have changed?
 
ChrisUlrich said:
That was a damn near perfect answer... hahahah thanks a lot man.

I wouldn't be getting a 570 though. Benchmarks show that the GTX 295 is right up there with it. And I just RMAed my 295 and according to the people at eVGA, I should be getting at least a 570 back if they don't have any 295's in stock. I would be pretty upset if I get the 570 considering the 580 is the only card "of equal value or better performance."

Are there any ATI cards you'd take over the 580 that are single GPU?
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I would take the 6950 or 6970 over a 580, unless I had crap loads of money. Either the 6950 or the 6970 will play any game at full settings at high resolution, including having an eyefinity setup, so paying extra is just wasting money. They also give the same performance as a 570, but at a lower cost. If Nvidia dropped their prices to more competitive levels then I would take either, but because of price/performance at the moment, ATi is the way I would go

ChrisUlrich said:
I don't get the dedicated Physx Card thing. Why would that yield me better performance? If I don't have one, what am I losing? I didn't have one with my 295 setup, was I supposed too? What would I notice? What would have changed?
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You won't see any performance gain outside of games with Physx, but in games which have Physx you will see better performance.

Physx is an Nvidia technology which isn't available on ATi, but there are very few games which have it, which is why I say if it is a selling point to you, getting a dedicated Physx card + 6950 would give better performance. If you had a single Nvidia card of similar performance, like a 570, some of the load would be Physx, so by taking that load off and having the rest of a similarly powerful card, be it ATi or Nvidia, you will see greater performance.

Your 295, as it is Nvidia, has Physx, so you aren't losing a thing.

I only brought it up because for some people, as I said, Physx is a selling point, and it was just saying there is no need to turn down ATi just because it doesn't have Physx, because there are work arounds
 
So you really think it's better for me to go with a 6970 and a GTS250 for a Physx card?

I am actually thinking about a Crossfire setup now since they're only roughly $360 a piece.

What brand do you suggest for a 6970? I usually just get an eVGA brand card since i've been nVidia for the last 4 years.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...3901 600095874&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon HD 6970

I appreciate this advice because the Crossfire setup really blows the 580 away and the 580 in SLi is a totally ridiculous pricetag. And it seems that the performance of a 580 SLi setup and a 6970XF setup is pretty darn close. Much closer than it is on a 1v1 scale.
 
I would not use a slow card like a gts250 for physx, it's likely to hurt video performance rather than assist it(i'd get a gtx460 at least). Like mentioned not enough games are out that make use of physx, so it isn't exactly a necessary investment. If you have a good processor, why would you need physx in the first place?
 
ChrisUlrich said:
So you really think it's better for me to go with a 6970 and a GTS250 for a Physx card?

I am actually thinking about a Crossfire setup now since they're only roughly $360 a piece.

What brand do you suggest for a 6970? I usually just get an eVGA brand card since i've been nVidia for the last 4 years.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...3901 600095874&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon HD 6970

I appreciate this advice because the Crossfire setup really blows the 580 away and the 580 in SLi is a totally ridiculous pricetag. And it seems that the performance of a 580 SLi setup and a 6970XF setup is pretty darn close. Much closer than it is on a 1v1 scale.
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No, I don't. In fact, forget I mentioned Physx, I only mentioned it in case it was some sort of selling point, but as you don't know what it is it clearly isn't, and as Spesh rightly says, very few games actually use it

Regarding the manufactucturer, any but your cheaper models. From that list, any of them except for Visiontek and Powercolor I would go for

Russ88765 said:
I would not use a slow card like a gts250 for physx, it's likely to hurt video performance rather than assist it(i'd get a gtx460 at least). Like mentioned not enough games are out that make use of physx, so it isn't exactly a necessary investment. If you have a good processor, why would you need physx in the first place?
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I beg to differ. Using Mafia 2 as an example, I'm able to play at full settings, with Physx on my GTX260, so full game rendering and Physx on it, and it is constant 60 FPS. An 8800GT is enough for Physx, and considering a GTS250 is a 9800GTX+, just with a different name, gives you an idea of how plenty it is.

It doesn't have to be doing full video rendering, just physics processing, and when considering what is usually done on the CPU, which is much slower than even a mid-low end card, is done fine on the CPU, goes to show how you really don't need what is actually a high end card like a GTX460, just for Physx
 
I'm running GTX 580 with a GTX 280 that's dedicated to Physx. Gotta say though, not much of a frigging difference... (GTX 580 is powerful enough to handle both physx and the graphics itself, the GTX 280 seems to be just drawing extra power and warming up my room)
 
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