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I don't care if you're a rocket scientist....you don't know jack about raid setups apparently.

I bet you a million dollars if I went to the smartest person on the planet, and asked them ''whats a stronger graphics card.....a 5770 or a gtx460?'' they would not have a fricken clue what I was talking about.

So I'm not impressed by your 32 year old IQ test.

BTW, so you are 67 years old now? I bet it's your dad's or even grandfather's IQ test or something anyway.
 
Thanks for the backup 87dtna.

I was on Topic, but i couldnt let JHM mis-inform someone about RAID so they miss out on all the advantages.

JHM: that scan doesnt prove anything nor is it relevant.
 
It only shows, I am not an "Idiot". As for my knowledge, do you know anything about how HDDs work ? What is a "Head Crash" ? What causes "Head Crashes" ? Why does Windows require that you use their shutdown proceedure ? Why did Windows 98-Se say "It is safe to shut off your computer now" ?

What you guys are trying to do is save yourselves time, working on other peoples computers, - and it does save time, - BUT at a price ! - and the price is increased chance of simultaneous hardware failure of both drives in the Mirrored Array. What do you do when that happens ?
 
What you guys are trying to do is save yourselves time, working on other peoples computers, - and it does save time, - BUT at a price ! - and the price is increased chance of simultaneous hardware failure of both drives in the Mirrored Array. What do you do when that happens ?

You got it! Zero downtime means zero loss of revenue imagine a corporation with thousands of computers. Hopefully you understand now.
 
It only shows, I am not an "Idiot". As for my knowledge, do you know anything about how HDDs work ? What is a "Head Crash" ? What causes "Head Crashes" ? Why does Windows require that you use their shutdown proceedure ? Why did Windows 98-Se say "It is safe to shut off your computer now" ?

What you guys are trying to do is save yourselves time, working on other peoples computers, - and it does save time, - BUT at a price ! - and the price is increased chance of simultaneous hardware failure of both drives in the Mirrored Array. What do you do when that happens ?

I have a hard time believing you are 67 years old....and therefore have a hard time believing that IQ test is yours ;)

Shutting down improperly only corrupts the operating system...IE software related, nothing to do with a hardware related drive failure.

There's absolutely no way a raid array, which is done VIA software, would have ANY affect on a hard drive failure rate on a mechanical aspect. It doesn't even make any sense. Why would a mirrored backup drive be under any more risk of failure than a data backup drive? It's not.

A head crash is very rare on modern drives, and having drives in a raid array does not increase any risk whatsoever.
 
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Guess again; - On all counts.
1) I am 67 years old, and I have another 35 year old IQ test from Canada Manpower that also rates me in the 99th percentile.

2) Shutting down improperly is the primary cause of "Head Crashes" and yes they do screwup "Software" because they DAMAGE sectors on the HDD making some parts of the "Software" unreadable.

3) If you knew ANYTHING about the way HDDs work you would understand why Mirrored Arrays increase the chance of Simultaneous Hardware Failure of the HDDs in the array.

4) Get ahold of a program called TestHDD and run it on your HDDs. VERY informative. It doesn't just show unreadable sectors, it also gives a graph of the entire drive, showing sectors which are damaged, but still readable, and shows the extent of damge involved. You will notice that the damage, (and there will be some), shows a pattern.

5) HDDs work something like an old time "Record Player". Record Players read the data on "Records" while HDDs read the data on the HDD platters. Record players had "Tone Arms" fitted with a "Needle" which read the data on the Record. When the Record was not being played the "Tone Arm" sat on a "Stand". HDDs have "Read & Write Heads" which read & write data from & to the "Platters"; and when the HDD is not in use those heads are "Parked" - sort of like sitting on the "Tone Arm Stand".

6) The major difference in the method of operation between old time "Record Players" and HDDs, is that with "Record Players" the "Needle" was in "Contact" with the Record, whereas with HDDs, the "Read & Write Heads" are NOT SUPPOSED TO EVER COME IN CONTACT WITH THE PLATTERS !!! Instead they float just above the platters and read or write to them magnetically.

7) What keeps them "Floating above the platters" is an air cushion generated by the spinning of the platters in the drive. What happens when you shut down power to the drive, without first having "Parked" the "Read & Write Heads" ? The answer is the air cushion that holds them up collapses, and then you get a "Head Crash". Think about that, if you are capable of thinking. The drive is still spinning at reduced speed, not fast enough to generate the required "Air Cushion", but plenty fast enough to cause the heads to scrape the platters, bounce back up, fall back down, scrape some more, bounce again, and go on doing that for a while,- ergo the pattern in the damage which you will find by running "TestHDD". Sort of like skipping a sone on water. This causes "Bad Sectors", and it it happens to the "Boot Track" the drive is toast !!!

8) Why do "Mirrored Arrays" significantly increase the chance of Simultaneous Hardware Failure of the drives in the array ? Because in "Mirrored Arrays" both drives are constantly in the same configuration. If the primary drive is reading or writing to the Boot Track, so is the secondary drive in the array; consequently any "Head Crash" will damage the same parts of both drives. And if the Boot Track is killed on one, it gets killed on the other too.

And that is just one reason "Mirrored Arrays" significantly increase the chance of simkultaneous failure of both drives in the array.
 
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You're age is showing then....because head crashes are so uncommon on modern 7200rpm drives this argument makes me laugh. They didn't go to 7200 RPM just for the speed.
Also, with NTFS the boot track is different than it was with the older FAT32 system, it's less succeptable to error....so again, showing your age.

I use SSD's on all my PC's now anyway, but in the past I've had many many blue screens causing improper shut downs yet never a head crash on a 7200 rpm drive, only even corrupted the OS so a fresh install cured everything.
 
Shows how little you know. You didn't even know that the reason that you get "Software Damage" from Head crashes, is because the drive sectors, (HARDWARE), that the damaged "Software" was sitting on have become unreadable. Like I said, run TESTHDD and see what damage has accrued to your drives dopey. I only use 7200 RPM drives, and mine have patterned damage. No bad sectors yet, but damaged ones yes.
 
"you cant teach an old dog new tricks"

Guess thats true. Its hard to believe that someone with such a supposed high IQ is so ignorant to the advancement in technology.

What does a person like yourself do on a computer? Read the news and google symptoms?

All that is fine on a single Hardrive that can produce write and read speeds of 40/80mb/s

But try encoding video, playing games, rendering images. Its much faster on a Stripe Array, and have all your data sit on a RAID 5 array for backup.

Its fine and dandy that your against RAID, but dont misinform people with your outdated knowledge. Thats the only thing that bothers me.
 
I'm going to talk to a brick wall now, since I'll get the same results.

Stop spewing your outdated knowledge on this forum, I recommend SSD's to everyone anyway....if you even know what they are.

TestHDD doesn't run on windows 7, so you probably still have XP....yet again showing your outdated field of knowledge.
 
I recently upgraded to SSD. Even my PCI-E SSD is running RAID 0 onboard. HAHAHA.

RAID isnt the problem, its the HDDs fault - sometimes. RAID some SSDs, complain about bad sectors and head crashes now?
 
Ok, this has gone on long enough, you can all argue until you are blue in the face and still won't accomplish anything.

Thread closed.
 
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