Contemplating a new PC...but should I?!

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I'm willing to drop around 2000-2500 dollas on a new PC. I would build it myself and stuff but I'm not sure if I want to wait for the Ivy Bridge processors to come out over the i7-3930K I'm eyeballing.

Here's my deal...I don't do much gaming on my PC so it's not really a gaming PC at 100% but I do game on it once in a while and it's also important to me that I do it well...I mostly need a raw powered CPU since internet broadcasting live video feeds takes up CPU as it's foremost spec. Let's just say...I often see my CPU hit 100% use in the Task Manager at the better and better qualities I decide to livestream at [720P 1080P etc]

Even though the 3930K is expensive as hell...paying the extra for having the 6-cores vs the i7 2600k 4-cores...is mouth watering. Or maybe the Ivy Bridge coming out will be worth waiting for? Hmm...

I don't know the most about PCs so your input and reasons for the input would be better for helping me understand the choice better.
 
For 2500$ have you looked into Sandy Bridge Extreme edition processors (i7 3980X, six cores, 12 threads)it would easily be possible for you to drop 1000$ on what is without a doubt the best processor on the market (even when compared to ivy bridge) that leaves you 1500$ for the rest of the computer, which is MORE than a respectable ammount.
 
MineIQ1701 said:
For 2500$ have you looked into Sandy Bridge Extreme edition processors (i7 3980X, six cores, 12 threads)it would easily be possible for you to drop 1000$ on what is without a doubt the best processor on the market (even when compared to ivy bridge) that leaves you 1500$ for the rest of the computer, which is MORE than a respectable ammount.
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the 3960x is the exact same processor as the 3930k, just 1 higher multiuplier and it might overclock .1ghz farther, not worth 400 bucks in my opinion.
 
They're going to be using the same socket type right? Maybe I can buy all the other components first and buy the CPU last to make sure when the Ivys are out? I may withold buying the CPU until last.
 
Buy LGA2011 now. Ivy will not make that much of a difference in your regards.

Yes, the 39** series all use the LGA2011 socket.

And you can make a great computer with a 2500 budget on the LGA2011 socket.
If you want me to, I can make a build list for you.
 
Wolfe, that'd be nice to take a gander at. I think I may wait for the CPU so I'll probably set my budget to 1500 [without the 600 CPU i think I'll buy].

I'd like 8-16 gigs of RAM. Preferably in the mid-high range.
GPU can be a reasonable one that isn't insane like the CPU...whatever has the best value I guess. I don't need this to be insane like my CPU.
64gig SSD for Windows 7
1 TB of HDD with possibly expansions for a few more.
I'll be using my own copy of Windows 7 so no need to buy a new one.
No need for another Mouse or Keyboard.
No need for a monitor.
Quite a few USB 2.0 sots [minimum 4]
An onboard USB 3.0 Slot with NEC 3.0 I think it was? Dont mess with this one...I do need the NEC 3 specifically whatever that happens to be.
I like having PCI slots open incase I want to shove something inside there later.
I like not worrying if my Power Supply is too weak for some of the doo-hickeys I have strapped inside and outside my PC like it's on lifesupport...I like not worrying with a higher PSU.

I wonder what kind of build this will look like with 1500 minus the CPU i may dish out later.
 
Sorry but I don't know a lot about computers which is why I'm on this forum. I will try to help you though. I recommend you do some research and buy different parts which I am doing right now. That is very chEap. You can google to buy some good parts. I hOpe you have a good time
 
Ok, since you are going to use a i7-39**, then that will be no issue at all, as all of the motherboards are compatible.

ASrock X79
- 8 DDR3 channels, fairly affordable, 16/16/8 SLI/CF on PICe x16 3.0, 2 PCI slots. Good brand.
Patriot G2 16GB
- 16GB (4x4). Quality brand, heat spreader. Leaves you room to double or quadruple the amount of RAM should you need to. You can expand up to 64GB if need be.
HAF-x
-Case is always personal opinion. I happen to be partial to Coolermaster, and this one has a side window, and excellent cable management. Full Tower means you can put just about any computer component inside without worry.
Hyper 212+ EVO
- One of the best air coolers on the market, and has the LGA 2011 mount hardware.
Segate HDD
- Only $20 more than the 1TB of the same model, and plenty of room. If you need more, then just buy the same drive over and over. You could theoritically have 14 TB of space using these drives, assuming 1 DVD (or blueray) drive and 1 SSD.
XFX 1250 Watt
you said that you never want to have to worry if you have enough power. Challenge accepted by this PSU, quality brand, and enough power for 4 580's I think.
64 GB SSD
GTX 580
-Best you're going to find for the 422 left in the 1500 budget. You can go down to a 570 or 6970, but for the price you can not bat this one.
 
wolfeking's got it sorted. Stick with that build, and you'll be set for a number of years. Couple that with the fact that you can add another 1 or even 2 580s, and you've got it under control.
 
How much is that build in terms of $????/1,500

Also, it's really important the mobo has "Renesas" NEC 3.0 or something like that built in. I'll literally have wasted all this money if I can't run the piece of hardware I want on it that needs that exact specific thing right there...no modifications with similar brands or whatever. Tell me a bit more about that.

Also, the CPU Fan link isn't working?

I'm liking the build, Wolfe. I totally love you for takin the time out to make a blue print real quick <3
 
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i do not know what that NEc 3.0 is so I can not tell you. If you can link the hardware that you have that needs it, then I can tell you if it will work, or link a bboard that will work.

And it was like 1480 or something like that. There was 422 left before the GPU, and that is 399, so that would leave 23, so it was 1477.

YOu still need a CPU and Windows, but you can get them together, since you will not be able to do anything till you get a CPU anyway.
 
that still does not tell me what it is or how to look for it. I do not see a listing for it either at teh ASrock site, or newegg, so I am not sure if it has it or not.
 
NEC is a company that deals with the majority of usb 3.0 technology. the board supports usb 3.0 so you will be fine.

In other words, NEC 3.0 = USB 3.0
 
are you sure about that?
If so, then you are set with the board I picked out for you. In fact, you should be good with any X79/Z68/P67 motherboard.
 
Not exactly, you can make an argument that all motherboards ARE based off of eachother because of technology increases. But the chipset you mentioned is for socket 1366, which is more or less dead.
 
no. It is the replacement socket for 1366. LGA 2011 is a completely diferent beast though. The use of it is more or less the same though. It will have a few advantages over 1366.

1. Quad channel memory. This puts the 3820 @ 51.2 GB/s of memory throughput verses the i7-920s 25.6GB/s of throughput. Meaning in quad channel mode, you will almost double the amount of data that you can send through memory in a second.
2. PCIe 3.0. Greater throughput (double that of PCIe 2.0). Means that you will be future ready as far as graphics and expandability are concerned.
3. 48 lanes of PCIe connectativity (16/16/8 or 16/8/8/8) verses 32 lanes in X58.
4. Current socket. Means that there is a chance that it will recieve new processors at some point. LGA1366 is a dead socket meaning nothing new will come to it in the future.
 
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