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I would say no. There's no room in that case to upgrade to a decent graphics card, and then you'll need to upgrade the power supply, which would also be hard in that case. It wouldn't be worth it.

So was that other thread where you had a $8000 build a joke or what?
 
claptonman said:
I would say no. There's no room in that case to upgrade to a decent graphics card, and then you'll need to upgrade the power supply, which would also be hard in that case. It wouldn't be worth it.

So was that other thread where you had a $8000 build a joke or what?
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Yeah, it was a joke. Okay, will be looking more.
 
Seems not bad for the price, the only thing i find odd is it says seller refurbished, yet the spec says xp sp2.

I would have said any seller worth anything would have at the very least updated to sp3, that might say something about the seller.
 
You won't like it.
The cpu is a Pentium D.
fsb will limit you.
Just a regular PCI 16 slot for video.
 
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Correct, james.

byteninja2, The Pentium D is a 2 core, not a dual core.
It is fine for a lot of things, but you said you want to make a gaming comp.
I think you will be throwing good money after bad if you try hopping this one up.

I don't game, so I'm not really up on the hardware side, but I suspect you won't be happy in the end.
I'm sure others have more insight on this.

Forgot to add, that MB will only support 4 gigs of ram if I read the spec sheet on it correctly.
 
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pentium d run off of the netburst architecture, which is the pentium 4, and for madern gamin, just sucks, nowadays a core2 is about the bottom for gaming.
 
byteninja2 said:
I upgrade the GPU to something recent and 6 GB of ram?
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If you buy this you can upgrade the RAM to 6GB if you want and if the motherboard allows it BUT it will be a waste of money because XP 32-bit will only recognize and use around 3.5GB of those 6GBs, so you'll have 2.5GB RAM sitting in your computer that will be useless. You could always install XP Pro x64, which is a 64-bit edition of XP, to get around this problem but I'd recommend that as much as I'd recommend falling down a flight of stairs.

Also, with upgrading the GPU, you may have a struggle because of the case probably not supporting the bigger cards (both length-wise and width-wise - the case looks like a slim tower) and you'd probably also have to upgrade the power supply to run a decent card. These OEM machines also tend to be very "dual-slot card unfriendly" because the motherboards tend to have SATA ports located right underneath where the graphics card would sit. This is fine for single-slot cards, but most of the gaming cards are dual-slot, so the graphics card could cover up the SATA ports if they are located there on the board. It's probably not worth your time or money.

Asides, the Pentium D isn't a great CPU as others have mentioned and for a bit more you can probably pick up something far better with a Core 2 Duo or maybe even a Core 2 Quad if you get lucky.
 
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vistakid10 said:
If you buy this you can upgrade the RAM to 6GB if you want and if the motherboard allows it BUT it will be a waste of money because XP 32-bit will only recognize and use around 3.5GB of those 6GBs, so you'll have 2.5GB RAM sitting in your computer that will be useless. You could always install XP Pro x64, which is a 64-bit edition of XP, to get around this problem but I'd recommend that as much as I'd recommend falling down a flight of stairs.

Also, with upgrading the GPU, you may have a struggle because of the case probably not supporting the bigger cards (both length-wise and width-wise - the case looks like a slim tower) and you'd probably also have to upgrade the power supply to run a decent card. These OEM machines also tend to be very "dual-slot card unfriendly" because the motherboards tend to have SATA ports located right underneath where the graphics card would sit. This is fine for single-slot cards, but most of the gaming cards are dual-slot, so the graphics card could cover up the SATA ports if they are located there on the board. It's probably not worth your time or money.

Asides, the Pentium D isn't a great CPU as others have mentioned and for a bit more you can probably pick up something far better with a Core 2 Duo or maybe even a Core 2 Quad if you get lucky.
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I was gonna put windows 7 64 bit on it anyways. Okay guys, I get it, I wont get this pc. No more posts please. Thank you for the info.:cool:
 
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