SSDs not great and never will be?
You will never want to go back to a regular HDD once you've tried one on 6GB/s.
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SSDs not great and never will be?
You will never want to go back to a regular HDD once you've tried one on 6GB/s.
wolfeking
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You say that now. I will probably end up back on a HDD in a couple of weeks. Your talking about it being fast. Big deal. At least my HDD will still have its stock speed 10 years from now and I will still be able to use whatever OS I want to on it.
SSDs, while meant to be well, is just another try by microsoft to kill everything except windows 7. And thanks to that is a reason why I probably will not use it for more than a month at most.
SSDs, while meant to be well, is just another try by microsoft to kill everything except windows 7. And thanks to that is a reason why I probably will not use it for more than a month at most.
No.
It's just when Windows Vista was the latest OS SSDs were so expensive there was no point really enhancing the OS in any way to work on SSDs because nobody had them as they just so expensive. However, when Windows 7 came out, the prices of SSDs started to drop, so Microsoft made Windows 7 run better on SSDs, chances are Windows 8 will run even better on SSDs.
It's like complaining that Windows 98 does not run well on multi-core processors or the fact that it does not run on over 1GB of RAM, it's a pointless complaint because when the OS was released nobody had 1GB of RAM and multi-core processors just didn't exist.
Windows Vista will run just fine on an SSD, as will XP, it's just you won't be be able to use TRIM - big deal really. I certainly know Vista runs fine on an SDD because I used Vista on my SSD for two weeks or so, worked fine.
The drive will be fine without TRIM.
An SSD will still be working long after your mechanical HDD has clicked away into the "HDD graveyard". Mean time between failures for SSDs is decades and decades in most cases, if not centuries sometimes.
wolfeking
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So they say. No one has had a SSD for decades to test the theory. There is no way that they even tested the SATA6 drives for the 1mil+ hours that they claim. The interface and controllers have not existed for that long.
If its fine without it them wtf do we need it? A selling point for OSX, Ubuntu 10 and windows 7? or does it actually do something? Even without it, its still a waste of $100 that could easily be put into a 1,5TB drive.
If its fine without it them wtf do we need it? A selling point for OSX, Ubuntu 10 and windows 7? or does it actually do something? Even without it, its still a waste of $100 that could easily be put into a 1,5TB drive.
OK very true but if you're a speed freak like myself and most of us here are an SSD is the best way to increase your computer's performance. SSDs are not a selling point for operating systems, the later operating systems are just enhanced so they can use them more efficiently.
If you'd rather a 1.5TB drive that's fine, but it's true that SSDs will last longer than a conventional hard drive because they are solid state, thus have no moving parts, it's true that they are faster, it's also true that they are getting cheaper, faster and larger. Honestly they're the future - no denying it, and the technology is only going to get better.
On the other hand, hard drives may get better too, but I kind of doubt that now really.
Have you ever used an SSD before?
wolfeking
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several, and never saw the point over boot time. And its a good reason why I should not be on the internet after a full day of exercise and such. Cause it results in wasting money.
Either you misread it, or I said it wrong. I was not saying the SSD is the selling point. I was saying if they work without TRIM just fine, then whats the use of TRIM? The way yall talk, and the manufacturers, if you don't use trim then your hurting the drive. Fine enough, I am going to run XP and Vista on it. And It will fail soon. That is a guarenteed.
We will see how they run. I doubt that there will be anything they offer over HDDs other than speed, and speed is not everything. Computers are going internet only, so it will only be a couple of years before a ipod is the most powerful thing you can use without renting supercomputer space. That is the future, not SSDs and quantum processors and point to point RAM.
Either you misread it, or I said it wrong. I was not saying the SSD is the selling point. I was saying if they work without TRIM just fine, then whats the use of TRIM? The way yall talk, and the manufacturers, if you don't use trim then your hurting the drive. Fine enough, I am going to run XP and Vista on it. And It will fail soon. That is a guarenteed.
We will see how they run. I doubt that there will be anything they offer over HDDs other than speed, and speed is not everything. Computers are going internet only, so it will only be a couple of years before a ipod is the most powerful thing you can use without renting supercomputer space. That is the future, not SSDs and quantum processors and point to point RAM.
I used my SSD without TRIM and on a SATA 3GB/s connection, worked fine, just not as fast as on a 6GB/s connection, but that was to do with the SATA connection, not TRIM.
The drive will not fail soon. Simple as that. I'm not saying at all that if you don't use TRIM the "drive will fail very soon", I'm saying that TRIM helps keep the drive running in as best as shape as possible, but it is not essential at all.
Your computer will run a bit cooler and if using on a laptop then your battery life should increase, and don't forget SSDs are lighter too. I know the heat and the weight of the drives doesn't affect the desktop market at all really, but for the laptop world and the mobile world, it does affect it.wolfeking said:
I agree with you, we are going into the cloud - sad but true. Maybe I was wrong saying "SSDs are the future", the future is undecided.
Lets leave it at that.
CrazyHV8000
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Longest OT lol but i have my Hard drive on 6/sec SATAIII mode.
CrazyHV8000
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I'm going to try and get myself to 4.5 GHz again tomorrow, see if I get anywhere close to top AMD processor.. I have my doubts, although getting stable at 4.5 might prove difficult as hell.
Let hope you getting up to 4.5 since your RAM is that highest speed clock.
It shouldn't, and I have proper cooling for it, but last time I tried I couldn't get it stable at all. :/ Not sure if I need slightly more voltage since it DID boot, or if maybe my motherboard just doesn't handle all that amazing power very well.
Denther, as Smile said, run the test again. He doesn't believe you only get 5k points.
wolfeking
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if it did boot then you needed more volts. If it bluescreens when overclocking there is a good post to decode them over at OCN.
http://www.overclock.net/t/968053/o...voltages-temps-bios-templates-inc-spreadsheet