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SmileMan said:
Don't think so, it shouldn't beat an i7...
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Look at the leaderboard. The two overclocked i7s on there are up in the 1600s and 1700s. The FX-8350 should beat an older Nehalem i7 by quite a long shot.

The i5s are around the 1500 mark. I'd bet the FX-8350 scores around 1400-1500 points.
 
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spirit said:
Look at the leaderboard. The two overclocked i7s on there are up in the 1600s and 1700s. The FX-8350 should beat an older Nehalem i7 by quite a long shot.

The i5s are around the 1500 mark. I'd bet the FX-8350 scores around 1400-1500 points.
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an i5 2500k or 3570k scores 1300 in stock. The i7's around 1400. The stock FX 8350 will not beat the i7's in my opinion. :S
 
A stock 8350 won't beat a stock Sandy or Ivy Bridge i7, but it should definitely beat a Nehalem i7. I've already seen benchmarks whereby the 8350 is beating the old i7 920.
 
spirit said:
A stock 8350 won't beat a stock Sandy or Ivy Bridge i7, but it should definitely beat a Nehalem i7. I've already seen benchmarks whereby the 8350 is beating the old i7 920.
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the fx8150 was already xD. The is better in a huge end! Also singlethreaded the new fx8350 owns them, but not the sandy or ivy bridges.
 
I think the 8350 is definitely an improvement over the 8150. A step in the right direction I think.

I still wouldn't buy one though.
 
spirit said:
I think the 8350 is definitely an improvement over the 8150. A step in the right direction I think.

I still wouldn't buy one though.
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I would if I had to choose between an i5 from the same price :P.
And it's a very powerful cpu for servers too. :D
 
spirit said:
A stock 8350 won't beat a stock Sandy or Ivy Bridge i7, but it should definitely beat a Nehalem i7. I've already seen benchmarks whereby the 8350 is beating the old i7 920.
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Thats because nehalem had super low clocks stock, there really isn't a ton of difference in nehalem and sandy bridge CLOCK FOR CLOCK. Sandy and Ivy bridge are just clocked much higher stock, nearly an entire ghz. The I7 920 only is 2.66 ghz and they all easily overclock to 4.2ghz+ on air. Thats kinda sad that AMD's ''8 core'' offerings clocked at 4ghz are just now starting to beat Intel's quad core 2.66ghz 3 year old cpu's.

Lets see a 4.2ghz nehalem VS a 5ghz 8350 (the average daily overclocks of each), I bet the nehalem would win, in fact I know it would.
 
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87dtna said:
Thats because nehalem had super low clocks stock, the I7 920 only is 2.66 ghz and they all easily overclock to 4.2ghz+ on air.

Lets see a 4.2ghz nehalem VS a 5ghz 8350 (the average daily overclocks of each), I bet the nehalem would win, in fact I know it would.
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It depends on what aspects you're testing though...
The first gen i7 wasn't really that good singlethreaded though, even overclocked. Maybe a bit better then AMD. But AMD kicks the old i7 in multithreaded. And floating point is about the same.
The rest I don't know, I can't oc my 920 because the bios is locked. :(
 
87dtna said:
Thats because nehalem had super low clocks stock, there really isn't a ton of difference in nehalem and sandy bridge CLOCK FOR CLOCK. Sandy and Ivy bridge are just clocked much higher stock, nearly an entire ghz. The I7 920 only is 2.66 ghz and they all easily overclock to 4.2ghz+ on air. Thats kinda sad that AMD's ''8 core'' offerings clocked at 4ghz are just now starting to beat Intel's quad core 2.66ghz 3 year old cpu's.

Lets see a 4.2ghz nehalem VS a 5ghz 8350 (the average daily overclocks of each), I bet the nehalem would win, in fact I know it would.
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Very true. My i5 760 was clocked at 2.8GHz at stock, kinda low.

If you had asked me that question about 8 months or so ago I could have overclocked my i5 760 and found out for you. Granted, it was only an i5, but would still be interesting to see if the 760 once overclocked would beat an 8350.
 
spirit said:
Very true. My i5 760 was clocked at 2.8GHz at stock, kinda low.

If you had asked me that question about 8 months or so ago I could have overclocked my i5 760 and found out for you. Granted, it was only an i5, but would still be interesting to see if the 760 once overclocked would beat an 8350.
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In heavily threaded benches I doubt the 760 would win over an 8350. The 920 would fair about 30-40% better than a 760 in multi threaded benches.

I will say, it's nice to see a CPU that AMD is releasing thats finally a decent upgrade from Phenom II. The 8320 for $180 isn't bad. The 8350 is a bit overpriced, they both max out around 5ghz for a daily OC.
 
87dtna said:
In heavily threaded benches I doubt the 760 would win over an 8350. The 920 would fair about 30-40% better than a 760 in multi threaded benches.

I will say, it's nice to see a CPU that AMD is releasing thats finally a decent upgrade from Phenom II. The 8320 for $180 isn't bad. The 8350 is a bit overpriced, they both max out around 5ghz for a daily OC.
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Looking at the multithreaded the i7 920 isn't really that great if you compare them against newer gen...

i7 920

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i7 3770 stock

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That's 2.67ghz vs 3.4ghz, if the i7 920 was clocked the same, it would score around 480-500 (multithreaded). That's also less then an fx8150 would do I think.
 
87dtna said:
Thats because nehalem had super low clocks stock, there really isn't a ton of difference in nehalem and sandy bridge CLOCK FOR CLOCK. Sandy and Ivy bridge are just clocked much higher stock, nearly an entire ghz. The I7 920 only is 2.66 ghz and they all easily overclock to 4.2ghz+ on air. Thats kinda sad that AMD's ''8 core'' offerings clocked at 4ghz are just now starting to beat Intel's quad core 2.66ghz 3 year old cpu's.

Lets see a 4.2ghz nehalem VS a 5ghz 8350 (the average daily overclocks of each), I bet the nehalem would win, in fact I know it would.
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SmileMan said:
It depends on what aspects you're testing though...
The first gen i7 wasn't really that good singlethreaded though, even overclocked. Maybe a bit better then AMD. But AMD kicks the old i7 in multithreaded. And floating point is about the same.
The rest I don't know, I can't oc my 920 because the bios is locked. :(
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spirit said:
Very true. My i5 760 was clocked at 2.8GHz at stock, kinda low.

If you had asked me that question about 8 months or so ago I could have overclocked my i5 760 and found out for you. Granted, it was only an i5, but would still be interesting to see if the 760 once overclocked would beat an 8350.
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The normally BCLK is 133 MHz for LGA 1156 series which is high than santy and ivy. Just like I can overclocked at 215 MHz with LGA 1156. It is biggest die core size. Lack of Intel video card share with another AMD video card.
 
We wouldn't know unless you clock a 920 to 3.4ghz and find out. Pretty sure it would be higher than the numbers you are stating.
 
Jamebonds1 said:
The normally BCLK is 133 MHz for LGA 1156 series which is high than santy and ivy. Just like I can overclocked at 215 MHz with LGA 1156. It is biggest die core size. Lack of Intel video card share with another AMD video card.
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I'm at a loss for words at this post.
 
87dtna said:
We wouldn't know unless you clock a 920 to 3.4ghz and find out. Pretty sure it would be higher than the numbers you are stating.
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I asked someone with an oced i7 920 to test it for me, now waiting if he has the time :P. So we can get an answer here xD.
 
SmileMan said:
I asked someone with an oced i7 920 to test it for me, now waiting if he has the time :P. So we can get an answer here xD.
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Most 1st gen i3, i5, and i7 can overclock without K series but it is slow a bit than K series. I'm sure that 920 can be overclock with adj of BCLK and some voltage like vCore, Vtt, PLL or RAM voltage. Like mine higher overclock i had on LGA 1156 is 215 MHz BCLK.
 
Jamebonds1 said:
Most 1st gen i3, i5, and i7 can overclock without K series but it is slow a bit than K series. I'm sure that 920 can be overclock with adj of BCLK and some voltage like vCore, Vtt, PLL or RAM voltage. Like mine higher overclock i had on LGA 1156 is 215 MHz BCLK.
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You oc'd over the 4.9 ghz >.< didn't you? :P
 
Jamebonds1 said:
Most 1st gen i3, i5, and i7 can overclock without K series but it is slow a bit than K series. I'm sure that 920 can be overclock with adj of BCLK and some voltage like vCore, Vtt, PLL or RAM voltage. Like mine higher overclock i had on LGA 1156 is 215 MHz BCLK.
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No way! Can you really overclock with the base clock??? No way!
 
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