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No, you can get an i7 easyly. here is an example. http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3930...=UTF8&qid=1358728283&sr=8-4&keywords=Intel+i7 And that is a pretty good deal.
CPU Choice?
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No, you can get an i7 easyly. here is an example. http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-3930...=UTF8&qid=1358728283&sr=8-4&keywords=Intel+i7 And that is a pretty good deal.
If you want an Intel chip, get the 3770K.
If you want AMD, get the FX-8320.
Both are very overclockable, the 3770K is faster though (but more expensive). You can see a direct performance comparison between the two here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=698
I'd get the 3770K myself.
Hey guys what do you think about this:
Intel i7-3930K Newegg - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
I was looking at the 3820, but this one looks so much better. I was looking at that plus the Rampage IV Gene w/ DDR3 1866, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, CrossFireX / SLI for motherboard.
I just want something that will be kick as at anything i throw at it. and won't have to upgrade for a while. I do a LOT of multitasking and the Q6600 (even though i have it OC'd) just isn't enough at times.
So what's your guys opinions?
Intel i7-3930K Newegg - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
I was looking at the 3820, but this one looks so much better. I was looking at that plus the Rampage IV Gene w/ DDR3 1866, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, CrossFireX / SLI for motherboard.
I just want something that will be kick as at anything i throw at it. and won't have to upgrade for a while. I do a LOT of multitasking and the Q6600 (even though i have it OC'd) just isn't enough at times.
So what's your guys opinions?
id say that cpu will be the best you can get for the tasks you want to do on a regular basis. its in your price range, so id say go for it. if your not pressed about the price. your basicaly getting 50% more cpu power than the 3770k, for about 73% more money, so tha price to performance ratio just doesnt set here with this cpu. but, the performance you will get through the tasks you said youwill be doing, well, it cant be matched compared to the other cpu's we have been looking over. if you have the money, then go for it.
as far as the asus board you mentioned in the above post, id say it should be a good choice. i have the same board basicaly, but for socket 1155 version, and i hae to say, its a fantastic board. and to be honost, id strive to get 2133 mhz memmory or higher, if you need to buy ram for this set up still. normaly i wouldnt think much of it, but since you are thinking about getting the 3930k cpu, why fall off on the ram. get some good 2133mhz ram with the lowest cas timing you can afford. i feel that the cpu is worthy of it, and it will just add to the performance in the tasks you are going to be doing.
maybe something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233258
as far as the asus board you mentioned in the above post, id say it should be a good choice. i have the same board basicaly, but for socket 1155 version, and i hae to say, its a fantastic board. and to be honost, id strive to get 2133 mhz memmory or higher, if you need to buy ram for this set up still. normaly i wouldnt think much of it, but since you are thinking about getting the 3930k cpu, why fall off on the ram. get some good 2133mhz ram with the lowest cas timing you can afford. i feel that the cpu is worthy of it, and it will just add to the performance in the tasks you are going to be doing.
maybe something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233258
wolfeking
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All good, but you should use quad channel not dual channel. And do not expect 2133+ if you use all channels. The Memory controller will not be able to handle it.
And really, with the price of memories now, everyone building should be using 1866+ DDR3, reguardless of CPU.
Well the key difference between that and the 3820 is that the 3930K is a hex-core with 12 threads, whereas the 3820 is a quad-core with 8 threads. So if you need the power of six cores and twelve threads, go for it, otherwise, if the 3820 is quite a lot cheaper, consider that if you want a Socket 2011 chip. The 3770K is also still a great option though and I think it'll be great and you'll save quite a bit of money by going for it over a 3930K.
wolf, thats why i said "maybe" ram like i suggested. just buy 2 sets of them, throw 2 on each side with the fan cooler they come with and it will look sharp. and i dont think that asus board will struggle with 2133 ram using 4 dims. my friend has a much cheaper asus board in that socket, and he runs 16 gigs of 2133 quad channel no problem.
and i completly agree, that now days with ram prices, there is really no reason to go lower than 1866mhz in speed. i wish i would have gotton faster ram when i bought the ones i have now, 6 months ago, but im happy with these mushkins.
and i completly agree, that now days with ram prices, there is really no reason to go lower than 1866mhz in speed. i wish i would have gotton faster ram when i bought the ones i have now, 6 months ago, but im happy with these mushkins.
FuryRosewood
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get 1600 with four sticks of 4 gig, i wouldn't bother on the gamer snake oil. faster ram yields very little gain in real life scenarios, and with the quad channel you will have more than enough bandwidth
argument that the 3770k is faster than the 3820 is moot. the 3770k is a top of the line 1155 chip, the 3820 is the entry level chip for 2011, and the entry level chip gives more room to grow if OP decides to go that route, but the 3930k would be the sweet spot.
argument that the 3770k is faster than the 3820 is moot. the 3770k is a top of the line 1155 chip, the 3820 is the entry level chip for 2011, and the entry level chip gives more room to grow if OP decides to go that route, but the 3930k would be the sweet spot.
wolfeking
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4 dimms should work fine, 8 dimms is where you get issues. Unless he is running 8x2GB, then he is not using all dimms and not stressing the memory controller.
Maybe you wouldn't, but there is a gain to be had in real life. Depending on the game, you are looking at up to 10% FPS gain, and a noticable gain in distributed computing performance. Anything using Physx will also have a decent gain (5-8% over 1600).
That aside, why spend $500+ on a CPU and crap out on the rest of the build? makes very little sense.
Just kidding!Hey Wolfe,
By the looks of the Asus Rampage IV, looks like it only supports 1866 unless OC'd. Is this right? 1866 should be good enough though right? I'd love to try 2400 but in trying to find a motherboard like the Asus Rampage that supports it, is hard to find. I want to try to stick with Asus for my mother board, i love the BIOS (easy to navigate and OC). Any suggestions?
For memory I have been looking at the G.Skill Ripjaw Z series. What do you think? I'm only going for 8GB for now. I haven't needed anything more as of yet, nor do i think it's possible to use more.
Let me know your thoughts.
i feel that you should go with 4 sticks of ram, so you can use the quad channel tech that the board has to offer. go with 16gigs, so you can get 4 x 4gig sticks. i know it may be more than you need now, but at least you wont have to invest in more ram later down the road when you do. and you should deffinatly go with 2133 or 2400 like you want. what makes you think the board dont support that fast of ram. it supports up to 2400 ram, through over clock or xmp settings. so all you do is go into the bios and where the ram settings are, select the xmp profile and it will set the ram at the manufactures settings and proper speeds. save and exit and your good to go. it how its designed and supposed to work in this manner
This is what i was unsure of about that motherboard. It had the OC beside it so i wasn't sure what that meant.
Thanks for your suggestions. I'm not too sure on how memory sticks work, but by going 4x4GB (giving me 16GB) because each slot is filled with a stick, would this mean what Wolfe was talking about "dual Channel"? Faster in a way?
on x79 boards, like the asus, you can run dual channel (by using 2 sticks of ram), or you can run quad channel (by using 4 sticks of ram). running quad channel is what you want to aim for, so going with 4 ram sticks is mandatory. that being said, its better, in my opinion, to get a cas of no higher than 9, no matter the speed of the ram. the lower the cas, the better. so, running 1600mhz ram with a cas 7, would be better than running 2133mhz ram with a cas 11. running the ram in quad channel will give you much more memmory bandwidth which will give you better performance over dual channel. reason being is because dual channel allows for 2 operations to be processed per cycle, and quad channel allows for 4 operations to be processed per cycle. the more the better. especialy with the cpu your going with.
running 4 dimms is fine, even if the board only has 4 dimm slots on it. sometimes, if the board supports 8 dimms, and you try to use 8 ram sticks, issues arise, but sometimes. if you think 16 gigs is all you will ever need for this pc, then fo 4 x 4gig. if you think you will want/need more than 16 gigs, than go 2 x 8gig sticks now and use dual channel, and when you add 2 more later, you will be getting 2 upgrades at once. 1. the amount of ram and 2. going from dual to quad channel. honostly, i think that 4x4 is good for some time to come yet.
running 4 dimms is fine, even if the board only has 4 dimm slots on it. sometimes, if the board supports 8 dimms, and you try to use 8 ram sticks, issues arise, but sometimes. if you think 16 gigs is all you will ever need for this pc, then fo 4 x 4gig. if you think you will want/need more than 16 gigs, than go 2 x 8gig sticks now and use dual channel, and when you add 2 more later, you will be getting 2 upgrades at once. 1. the amount of ram and 2. going from dual to quad channel. honostly, i think that 4x4 is good for some time to come yet.
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