overclocking my ram...1600mhz+ how high can i go

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hello. im attempting to overclock my system, and ive gotton to the ram now. i currently have these ram sticks....http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226300

i was beating myself up abput not getting faster ram since i bought these 5 months ago, and 2133mhz ram was a bit more than the 1600. i figured the cas 8 and 1600mhz would be great. well, after running the ram at stock speeds, ive decided to overclock the ram (which i did no t know i could do. i thought that the only way to overclock the ram was through the cpu's base clock. i always just set the x.m.p. profile, and never thought of selecting the "manual" mode.) so, i discovered this, and i now have my ram running from a stock 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 1T timings @1.5v, to now running at 2133mhz 10-11-10-30 1T @ 1.5v. was wondering if this is good, or should i try and get that 1st 10 to a 9? i just let the motherboard choose the settings on "auto" mode for the ram. would more voltage let me go further, and whats a safe level of voltage to put on these dimms.

opinion, comments, and suggestions are welcome.
 
Intel information on the website says the memory supported is 1333 and 1600. I'm not an expert about overlocking, but if it can't support speeds any higher than that, I'd recommend just leaving your memory alone. I'd concern myself with your CPU and GPU.

Just my two cents.
 
^the supported speeds are what the memory controllers can set your RAM to without any special configuration. You can go higher than 1600 and still have it work. You just need to make sure that it is stable.

@OP

Right now you have an amazing OC on the RAM. I can't get my 1600 modules to recognize 1866 :( I am not an expert how the performance will increase but I think if you can take down the timings it will be better than trying for a higher clock on the RAM. You probably won't see much difference on the desktop with OCed RAM but run something like super pi and see what you get the best performance with.
 
kdfresh09 said:
hello. im attempting to overclock my system, and ive gotton to the ram now. i currently have these ram sticks....http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226300

i was beating myself up abput not getting faster ram since i bought these 5 months ago, and 2133mhz ram was a bit more than the 1600. i figured the cas 8 and 1600mhz would be great. well, after running the ram at stock speeds, ive decided to overclock the ram (which i did no t know i could do. i thought that the only way to overclock the ram was through the cpu's base clock. i always just set the x.m.p. profile, and never thought of selecting the "manual" mode.) so, i discovered this, and i now have my ram running from a stock 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 1T timings @1.5v, to now running at 2133mhz 10-11-10-30 1T @ 1.5v. was wondering if this is good, or should i try and get that 1st 10 to a 9? i just let the motherboard choose the settings on "auto" mode for the ram. would more voltage let me go further, and whats a safe level of voltage to put on these dimms.

opinion, comments, and suggestions are welcome.
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Try to manually set the timings, not auto. By doing it manually, you'll be able to get tighter timings, maybe 10-10-10-27, or 9-11-9-27, just try different timings and see which is stable. GL!

Oh, I wouldn't go pass 1.65v

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Intel information on the website says the memory supported is 1333 and 1600. I'm not an expert about overlocking, but if it can't support speeds any higher than that, I'd recommend just leaving your memory alone. I'd concern myself with your CPU and GPU.

Just my two cents.
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Which by the way, wasn't helpful at all.
 
the auto timings were 10-11-10-30. i tried 9-10-9-28, and it was a no go. im going to leave it on auto for some tests, since i know its stable. im going to mount a ramdisc, and use crystal disc mark to test the bandwidth in mb/s. ill do it with the ram running stock at 1600mhz 8-8-8-24, then run the test at 2133 10-11-10-30. ill post results in a few.

as far as timings, which numbers are the more imortant ones out of them...(10-11-10-30 2T)? im thinking that id like to get the 1st 10 to a 9, but if i cant, would adding morevoltage help with tighter timings, or will adding more voltage only help the speed?

and im glad to hear that a 1600mhz to 2133mhz overclock is good. ive never looked into overclocking ram till now so i have no idea whats normal or great.
 
If he already has stable settings at 2133 without any voltage changes I don't see what the trouble is. He already did the work. Might as well have the benefit.

@OP
Voltage bumps will help both.
 
well so far ive had 0 pain with it. and in 3dmark 11 i got 300 +/- point more than i did before, and in intel burn test, it gave me 4 GFlops more. im going to do the blackhole bench, and the memory bandwidth once these files get done transfuring. no headachs at all so far though, so i cant see why it wouldnt be worth it?

and thanks salvage, for letting me know that voltage bumps will help both parts of the ram i was asking about. ill see what i can work with at the stock voltage fro now.
 
No problem. At this point it is just finding what is the balance between speed and timings. If you can test it with the command rate at 1T vs 2T.
 
the black hole benchmark didnt pull much difference. i ran the crystal disc mark and mad a ram disc...results arnt too much a difference,

1600mhz 8-8-8-24 1T
Read-10.7 GB/s
Write-12.1 GB/s
2133mhz 10-11-10-30 1T
Read-11.7 GB/s
Write-13.3 GB/s

so, i get a free 1 GB/s in data rate on the ram to cpu i/o. since im able to run it at 2133mhz at the same stock voltage, i have to say ill take the free upgrade. was easy to do , i just never thought of it i suppose. id have to say that this is some mighty fine ram. i cant recomend it since im not too up on whats good, but i figure if it can run at 2133mhz just by simply selecting it in the manual settings of the ram in the bios, manualy setting the ram to 1.5v, and leave everything else on auto, then i have to think that this is pretty good. im a happy mushkin buyer.:good:

oh, and i know windows index experience dont mean a whole lot of anything, but the memmory score went from 7.8 to 7.9.

ill test it at 2133 with a command rate of 2t right now and see what difference it makes.
 
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so, 1T, as expected, is faster.

2T @2133 = read- 10.2 GB/s and write- 11.4 GB/s

im going to make a 12 gig ramdisc, and install crysis 2 or battlefield 3 or some game that usualy has a long load time, and see how crazy fast the games load. i mean after all, my ssd is only reading 525mb/s. the installs should be insanly fast too.:eek:
 
It might be. I didn't see much benefit when I installed SC2 on my SSD so I wouldn't think that it will be much faster. In this case I can only hope that I am wrong :P
 
oh yeah. when running crysis 2 from the ram disc, where the game loads with the crytek thing spinning, it shows the screen for maybe 2 seconds and im in game playing. battlefield 3 is pretty much instantanious, as is dirt 3. very nice. id imagine adobe premiere and photoshop, or cad programs would benifet alot from this. 32gigs of ram would be good for that type of use, or if you were still very happy with my overclock though. i was thinking of doing my to run alot of VM's. pretty cool though. but im very happy with my overclock on my ram. i was going to overclock my video card, but it takes too long. a simple yet benificial presets from someone with knowledge on the card i have would be great, then my whole system will be overclocked for the 1st time.
 
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Like with any overclock, each chip is different. You can't really trust another card to OC exactly like yours. Whenever I OC GPUs I just play games and bump the core clock up 5 or 10MHz at a time. Once I have core clock maxed, I start working on the memory. Once I find the max for both I use MSI Afterburner to monitor the GPU and keep my settings. I load profile 1 as default, 3 as max OC with no voltage bumps, and 5 as mac OC with voltage bumps.

*I will note that I use the MSI Twin Frozr cards that are made more for OCing with voltage bumps. Changing the voltage on your card might not be a good idea depending on cooling and card design*

Since I am not a super competitive gamer, I just play games to find stability. I usually use Crysis or BF3. I find that the randomization of MP games helps test the stability.
 
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