What makes you think you're a gamer?

CrazyMike said:
See i would put you in the class for enthusiast just because you analyze the game play. It's not just about graphics, i also mentioned that it's the game play as well. As i don't like COD competitive gaming, doesn't say that i don't agree that they are enthusiast gamers. They tear down a map and analyze it at the deepest level. They have many strategies and concepts that make up an enthusiast.

A "poser" gamer in my eyes is definitely not a gamer. I include them in the piece of sh... pile and can be burned.
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I don't like the Console Competitive CoD community. And in all honesty, the PC community is becoming the same. Whiny idiots that scream "HACKS!" faster than, Well played. Now there is no skill level just hacks or legit. I could play against a low skilled team and beat them on my own. And then they would just say well played. Against a team the same or higher skilled than me and my team, and we win would mean we were cheating.

I will say this though, we don't analyze the maps. We just play them until we know every detail, every wallbang and every smoke and every rush and every nade. Its difficult to make strategies that a different from another team or player simply because in the end its just what the opposing team does is what makes you win or lose.
Its all chance, like in any sport or competition.
 
M1kkelZR said:
I don't like the Console Competitive CoD community. And in all honesty, the PC community is becoming the same. Whiny idiots that scream "HACKS!" faster than, Well played. Now there is no skill level just hacks or legit. I could play against a low skilled team and beat them on my own. And then they would just say well played. Against a team the same or higher skilled than me and my team, and we win would mean we were cheating.

I will say this though, we don't analyze the maps. We just play them until we know every detail, every wallbang and every smoke and every rush and every nade. Its difficult to make strategies that a different from another team or player simply because in the end its just what the opposing team does is what makes you win or lose.
Its all chance, like in any sport or competition.
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That is because you play Promod

I could not disagree more about it being luck. A team that goes in there with a plan will win, even if their players are less skilled. Our top 5 players are rarely on together, so when we are, we don't know how to play with each other as well as we do with the less skilled regulars. Normally there are the same 5 on week in, week out, but on paper not our strongest team. Put it together though and those "weak links" actually hold us all together.

Luck is 5% of it, the other 95% is tactics, knowledge of the map, knowledge of the game engine, knowledge of the people around you and trusting that there will be a friendly on your right when you need them there and not on your left and knowing how to counter them and their tactics and how to do it as a team.

That is just like any sport or competition ;)
 
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M1kkelZR said:
I don't like the Console Competitive CoD community. And in all honesty, the PC community is becoming the same. Whiny idiots that scream "HACKS!" faster than, Well played. Now there is no skill level just hacks or legit. I could play against a low skilled team and beat them on my own. And then they would just say well played. Against a team the same or higher skilled than me and my team, and we win would mean we were cheating.

I will say this though, we don't analyze the maps. We just play them until we know every detail, every wallbang and every smoke and every rush and every nade. Its difficult to make strategies that a different from another team or player simply because in the end its just what the opposing team does is what makes you win or lose.
Its all chance, like in any sport or competition.
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Agree with the "hacks" remark. There are a lot of people that think just because they got owned that the other team was cheating.

I totally disagree that competitive gamers do not study the map. As you have said yourself (in bold), you do analyze the maps. Or maybe you are meaning something else when you say "analyze maps". Strategies are very easily made. People (or teams) have certain way of doing things. Certain direction, certain goals to "control the map". I do this with every multiplayer game. Halo especially.

Aastii said:
That is because you play Promod

I could not disagree more about it being luck. A team that goes in there with a plan will win, even if their players are less skilled. Our top 5 players are rarely on together, so when we are, we don't know how to play with each other as well as we do with the less skilled regulars. Normally there are the same 5 on week in, week out, but on paper not our strongest team. Put it together though and those "weak links" actually hold us all together.

Luck is 5% of it, the other 95% is tactics, knowledge of the map, knowledge of the game engine, knowledge of the people around you and trusting that there will be a friendly on your right when you need them there and not on your left and knowing how to counter them and their tactics and how to do it as a team.

That is just like any sport or competition ;)
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+1 agree.
 
I don't really consider myself a "Gamer", although I have played a lot of different type of games over the years. The first "Electronic games that I played were in Arcade rooms at Malls for a Quarter a game. Then I move on to the early one's like Nintendo and Intellivision. And then to start on computers as early as a "8088", 286, 486 system's and all the way up to my current system that I have now "in my sig". But, after my Brother passed away in 2005, I dropped off the grid of playing any games for a long time. But, I started playing with a old game that I had around called "Battlefield Vietnam".
 
To answer the thread question.

Because I play games.

Don't understand why people try to set up categories. Who cares? Just play the games and enjoy them.
 
Denther said:
To answer the thread question.

Because I play games.

Don't understand why people try to set up categories. Who cares? Just play the games and enjoy them.
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What separates a driver from a trucker from a racing driver? With what you said, nothing, however they are clearly all different, two do it professionally, one exceeds all speed limits imposed on the other two, one only drives when they have to. They are all drivers, but they all do it differently, same thing here. I agree, everyone that games is a gamer, but not all gamers are GAMERS
 
Whats the definition of a gamer then?

I presume someone who plays games day in day out and it is their hobby, i'll wake up start a game, mainly strategy games for me and will play all day.

But you get the people that are like YEAH ME AND THE LADS ARE GUNNA PLAY FIFA, they play games, but they are not gamers.

Is that what you mean?
 
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I'll offer this definition for further discussion: a gamer is someone who is seriously into gaming.
 
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tech explorer said:
I'll offer this definition for further discussion: a gamer is someone who is seriously into gaming.
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Yeah I agree with that definition. I play a few games here and there, but I definitely don't spend my whole life playing them like some people do, so I wouldn't ever call myself a 'gamer' at the moment.
 
tech explorer said:
I'll offer this definition for further discussion: a gamer is someone who is seriously into gaming.
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But what counts as seriously into gaming for one person may not count for another.

Turbo playing strategy games is not "seriously into gaming" imo, that is a hobby.

People such as myself, running a clan, putting large sums of money and a lot of time into running games and not just playing them, playing competitively as well as for fun, going and scrutinising a map/engine to exploit certain features or to find the best way of getting from A to B and winning, coming back from work and then spending all of my free time in a game or doing something related to gaming, and then when not gaming watching Esports. In comparison, that is "seriously into gaming", and makes Turbo look like he is into it just cause it's cool.

That is crap though, Turbo plays games and therefore is a gamer. Anybody that plays computer games, no matter how infrequently, is a gamer. If someone plays a computer game once in their life time, for that moment that they are playing, they too are a gamer.
 
"That is crap though, Turbo plays games and therefore is a gamer.Anybody that plays computer games, no matter how infrequently, is a gamer. If someone playsa computer game once in their lifetime, for that moment that they are playing, they too are a gamer."

LOL I don't think you really mean that if I follow your thinking.

The definition I offered isn't a perfect one. It was simply offered to help clarify the discussion and help move it on until a better definition comes along. So Aastii if you have a better definition to propose, by all means do so. Otherwise you can use my temporary definition for discussion purposes.
 
tech explorer said:
"That is crap though, Turbo plays games and therefore is a gamer.Anybody that plays computer games, no matter how infrequently, is a gamer. If someone playsa computer game once in their lifetime, for that moment that they are playing, they too are a gamer."

LOL I don't think you really mean that if I follow your thinking.

The definition I offered isn't a perfect one. It was simply offered to help clarify the discussion and help move it on until a better definition comes along. So Aastii if you have a better definition to propose, by all means do so. Otherwise you can use my temporary definition for discussion purposes.
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No, that was making it on the most extreme end of the spectrum which is not right, however someone who goes on games a couple of times a week, I would consider them a gamer still because they regularly play games. That seems like a better definition to me - someone who regularly plays computer games.

That could be daily or just on weekends or "I play every couple of weeks", they are still a gamer, albeit an infrequent casual gamer. You don't have to play games religiously to be called a gamer. Using the analogy before with the drivers, if someone only drove on a Saturday to go to the shops and do their large weekly shop, they would still be considered an active driver, even though they aren't driving every day or even a couple of times a week.
 
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