Ubuntu What Happened?

Turbo10

Turbo10

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Been playing with VMware the past few days and trying out different Linux Distros, downloaded Ubtunu 12 thinking 'I always liked Ubuntu, last one i tried was 10 and that was great'

What the hell has gone wrong? The layout is hideous, it took me ages to try to find the bloody terminal only to realise you have to search for things with the search bar. It also seems a hell of a lot slower than 9 and 10 too.

Ubuntu 13 is coming out soon so whether that will be an improvement over 12 who knows! So far though I think openSUSE is my favourite distro, looks amazing, navigates really well and yast is ridiculously useful.
 
I thought exactly the same thing when i first tried ubuntu with Unity,Its horrible imo..i prefer Ubuntu how it use to be. :D

LinuxMint & Pepperlinux are quite good. :)
 
Nevakonaza said:
I thought exactly the same thing when i first tried ubuntu with Unity,Its horrible imo..i prefer Ubuntu how it use to be. :D

LinuxMint & Pepperlinux are quite good. :)
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I don't like things hiding away! I want drop down menus with tonnes of settings to fiddle with, not having to trawl through a stupid search bar :P If i wanted an OS that revolves around typing i'd use DOS haha
 
Yeah Ubuntu is quite slow now. Try out Linux Mint, it's pretty good, or at least it was when I last tried it.
 
You guys do realize you can install whatever desktop environment on whatever distro you want, right?

Ubuntu is using unity right now, 10.04 had gnome2 which is now known as mate.
Linux Mint has cinnamon, xfce, mate, and KDE versions.
openSUSE uses KDE.


You can make any of these distros function and look like the others, and it's very straightforward.
 
NyxCharon said:
You guys do realize you can install whatever desktop environment on whatever distro you want, right?

Ubuntu is using unity right now, 10.04 had gnome2 which is now known as mate.
Linux Mint has cinnamon, xfce, mate, and KDE versions.
openSUSE uses KDE.


You can make any of these distros function and look like the others, and it's very straightforward.
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So what exactly is the difference between each distro if the desktop environments can be changed?
 
Turbo10 said:
So what exactly is the difference between each distro if the desktop environments can be changed?
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Without getting to far into it, you could say:
Philosophy, Packages, Core Os.

Philosophy: Distros take on standard topics like what software do we allow in our repositories, do we use a package manager or install from source, what's our view on non-free software? Are we rolling release, LTS, yearly, etc. Are we using bleeding edge software, in the middle, or old packages?

Packages: The packages available by default in the Distro's repositories. Each distro has a different number of packages available, and more importantly the versions of each package. Not every distro will have every package that every other distro has. Standard desktop environments, (which is what my previous post was about) are usually available in all distros. Some distro's uses package managers, others don't. And there's more then one package manager; apt-get, yum, emerge, aptitude, etc.

Core OS: What is it based on? Is it based on Debian, Redhat or is it independent, etc. A majority of distros these days are based on something else, aka "repsins". The exceptions are usually the more well know distros. For instance Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, which still had deep roots in Debian. openSUSE is independent. CentOS and Fedora are RedHat based.
 
NyxCharon said:
Without getting to far into it, you could say:
Philosophy, Packages, Core Os.

Philosophy: Distros take on standard topics like what software do we allow in our repositories, do we use a package manager or install from source, what's our view on non-free software? Are we rolling release, LTS, yearly, etc. Are we using bleeding edge software, in the middle, or old packages?

Packages: The packages available by default in the Distro's repositories. Each distro has a different number of packages available, and more importantly the versions of each package. Not every distro will have every package that every other distro has. Standard desktop environments, (which is what my previous post was about) are usually available in all distros. Some distro's uses package managers, others don't. And there's more then one package manager; apt-get, yum, emerge, aptitude, etc.

Core OS: What is it based on? Is it based on Debian, Redhat or is it independent, etc. A majority of distros these days are based on something else, aka "repsins". The exceptions are usually the more well know distros. For instance Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, which still had deep roots in Debian. openSUSE is independent. CentOS and Fedora are RedHat based.
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So the desktop environment is the way it looks, the layout, how things behave and each distro's 'core' is either independent or based on something else. So as you said Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but runs different desktop environments, so it will look different but the core OS is similar to Ubuntu right?

Then what is the difference between running Ubuntu in KDE and Kubuntu then :P
 
Turbo10 said:
So the desktop environment is the way it looks, the layout, how things behave and each distro's 'core' is either independent or based on something else. So as you said Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but runs different desktop environments, so it will look different but the core OS is similar to Ubuntu right?

Then what is the difference between running Ubuntu in KDE and Kubuntu then :P
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Almost nothing. It's a convince thing really. You would just install the kubuntu-desktop package and select to user KDE on the login menu. That's all it takes to switch from unity to kde.
 
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Turbo10 said:
Fair enough! Unfortunately I couldn't get Kubuntu to work on VMware workstation, just had a black screen with a cursor and nothing else :(
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You posted before I could finish editing my above post.

Just install kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu. Log out, click KDE in the options and then log in.
 
I just installed ubuntu 12 the other day. Unity is meh for me. I'd prefer something a little more power user friendly.
 
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