windows 7 or 8?

tylerjrb

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hey, im on my last part of my pc build, i just need a cooler and windows then it should all be good to go.

i was wondering will windows 8 still run everything i want as good as windows 7. I have been using windows 8 on my laptop and have been fine with it but i dont know a great deal about operating systems and if windows 8 has any drawbacks on performance etc. im mainly using my pc for gaming on battlefield, crysis etc.

im just after the standard windows 8 version also. Am i right in thinking it will run 16gb ram as it says on the internet it can go up to 128gb on standard.

just want to mention this comment that is on amazon for windows 8 and it has to be the best thing i have ever read :D. i think by the time you read it you may think that this person does not like windows 8 haha.

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In a nutshell, my experience with Windows 8 is that it is a complete and utter abomination and all hard copies should be shattered into nano particles then shot into space for the aliens to find and laugh at, and any computers running this horror show of an operating system should be incinerated and the victims (users) given counseling.

I was forced to use this horrific imitation of Google's Android software at work due to new computers being installed. Within minutes I was tearing my hair out. For the past ten years or so, I have been using a very stable copy of Windows XP at home but have just upgraded to Windows 7 after my computer passed away. I am getting used to it now that I have bypassed most of the idiot proof controls (do not hide menus from users!)and it's going well so no problems with W7 once you have deactivated all the warnings and the 'do not install this' and 'unsafe!' messages. Previously at work I was using Vista which was fine once it had stabilized after a few year's worth of upgrades, but Windows 8? Where in god's name do I start?

Firstly, it is not like any other incarnation of windows. I think Microsoft were jealous of the success enjoyed by Google with their Android software and decided they wanted a bite out of the cherry. In all fairness, Android is fantastic on a tablet. I have a tablet running Jellybean and I like it and it suits the touchscreen perfectly - but there is a problem with Windows 8. Desktop PC's are not tablets and Windows 8 is clearly designed to be used in conjunction with a touch screen and does not respond well to mousing. I can't speak for the majority, but I am fairly certain that most people have regular, non touch screen monitors with their desktop PC's and this is the way it should be. I could never imagine using Sage Accounts with a touch screen, or working on a spreadsheet or a Word document in this way. Touchscreens are for Angry Birds and simple applications. And that's another thing that got me very very mad. On W8, programs are referred to as apps! Apps! Firstly, the word app infuriates me by itself and Sage software is not a bloomin' app! All menus are hidden and to even get going you have to hover your mouse pointer vaguely around the bottom left corner of your screen and eventually, at some point, you might get a bunch of coloured tiles pop up which is meant to be some kind of menu. I had no training on the software so I was going in cold as they say but never before have I been so frustrated with windows software. At one point, I was working with a PDF and there are no options on screen. No menu, no print, no minimise or close or anything. Again, you have to vaguely wave your pointer around and if you are lucky you might get a few options. I couldn't even find the X to shut down the screen, because there isn't one! To get out of the program, I had to ctrl+alt+del just so I could get back to the desktop. Now I am sure there must be a way of minimsing it so you can work with another program but still have it running(as is often the case especially when at work) but I didn't have the time to mess about. As for digitally signing the PDF - not a cat in hell's chance! Clearly this is not proper Acrobat Reader and all I can think is that it is some rubbish kind of 'App'. Basically, Microsoft do not want users doing anything other than using Facebook and maybe the odd bit of online shopping. Gone are the days of proper computing when computers were used by people who wanted to do a bit more than put tweets out or update their social status to inform their vast army of friends that they are having a poo or whatever. Some social networkers claim to have hundreds of 'friends', but in reality what they have is a collection of little pictures, most of which were probably copied off Google images and they have never even exchanged so much as one message with alleged person behind the image. Having a vast number of little pictures on your Facebook page does not equate to having lots of friends. That equates to being sad and needy. I find this amusing because if you have just one genuine friend who you can say with 100% certainty that they will never stab you in the back, dump on you, slag you off behind your back or try and take your money or betray you are very lucky indeed because the human race is, well, I'll not go there right now. I'll wait until humans are available to review on Amazon. Now that would make interesting reading. 'Seven billion available new and used from the following sellers @ £0.99 with £4.06 postage'.

Anyway, back to Windows 8. If you do decide to insult your PC and install this foul piece of software (although I am sure many people already love it - just not me) you will get a lot further with it if you treat it like an Android tablet, only using a mouse instead of a touchscreen and providing you don't mind playing 'where's the menu' for half an hour. It's a bit like 'Where's Wally' but a lot less fun. Instead of swiping screens away with a sweep of your finger, you are meant to do it with a mouse. I have a name for this but I cannot include it in this review. This edition of Windows just doesn't work for me and I am very glad I got to test run it at work, otherwise I might have inadvertently gone and bought a copy for our new PC which my husband cleverly built and that would have ruined everything. I can just about deal with Windows 7 even if they have 'idiot proofed' it to quite a degree (which is frustrating after using XP) but there are workarounds and it has some cool features too but I would not and never will purchase a copy of Windows 8. In fact I wouldn't use it even if it was free and came complete with Bill Gates' head on a plate. Hopefully this embarrassing flop will sink like a giant, ugly stone and the new Windows will be out within a few months, although I don't hold out much hope for it. Here is what I predict for the new windows software...

New and coming soon to a living room near you! It's Windows Face! An all-in-one system comprising of unit, monitor and user friendly Faceware. The unit has just one, big button: on/off and the touch screen is welded to the unit so users won't misplace their monitors (like a tablet but it's not just a giant tablet masquerading as a PC, honestly) and it also comes with a handy head strap and in-built 4G, so users can wear their tablet PC's like a trendy hat when out and about. And here's the best bit....

Once the average user has read the manual from cover to cover and has learned how to switch the PC tablet on, they will find Microsoft have reinvented the desktop and instead of complicated, invisible menus there is a nice, blue screen with a big, fat F in the middle so users won't inadvertently stumble across My Computer or heavens forbid, Control Panel. And we all know what that F stands for, don't we sheeple? Yes! It's a direct, one touch Facebook button! So let's all baaaa together now, Faaaaacebooooooook.

One, simple F icon is all people need - so now you can get onto the world's favourite social networking site even faster! It's a a fifty point touch screen so any user of any computing ability can operate it with any part of their body. And now you can also access Facebook directly with your face! Just slam it into the screen and the one touch Facebook app will spring into life and the grease-print from your nose will automatically log you in, so you can update your very important status and check your messages and see who's poked you with one quick slam of the face! At least your Facebook farm will not go unattended while you struggle to open up internet explorer and search through a complex maze of bookmarks for your Facebook link!

All this for £399! Face not included.

For advanced users, there is also the Twitter edition. A more technical dual icon touchscreen with a T on one side and an F on the other. Full instructions included. Retails at an additional £100.

And coming soon in the not too distant future - voice activated Widows Face edition. Press the 'on' button and scream FACEBOOK! at the top of your lungs. No fingers or brain required.

Yes I can see where Windows is headed with Windows 8. Try it at your own peril.

If people take any offense to this review because they find Windows 8 to be a wonderful, joyous computing experience, then quite frankly I don't give a brown trout. Go for it, hit the unhelpful button. I won't lose any sleep over it. You can even even leave a sarcy comment if you feel the need to do so
 
I wouldn't take into account too much about what other people think or say. At the end of the day, you're the one using the computer, so you need to use what you prefer. If that's 7, use that, if that's 8, use that.

You say you've used 8 on your laptop, so you're familiar with it I presume, so there's a reason for you to use it. I've been using it for 6 months or so now and it's been fine, runs games and software just like 7 did, so I don't really have a problem recommending it.
 
Install Classic shell which gives the start back if you don't like Metro. So you get speed with the original Windows feel. Not to mention after install classic shell it will default to traditional desktop when the machine boots up.
 
Never was a fan of Classic Shell really. If you want the Start Menu back, and you want the OS to boot straight to the desktop, then download and install Pokki which is free and that will allow you to both of those things: https://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu

Or you can wait until October 18th when Windows 8.1 goes on sale. If you've already got Windows 8, it will be a free update which you can download and install through Windows Update. That will restore the Start Button (not the Start Menu though, when you press the Start Button it'll take you the tiles/metro UI) and will give you the option to boot straight to the desktop.
 
You know...I really do agree that computers today are mostly used for things like facebook...and ONLY for damn facebook.
Thank God I am not one of them lol.
I am sticking to my good old XP.

If I ever update XP to let's say Windows 7 or Windows 8 that is going to be on my second UAC computer (never ever on my main UAC computer) ONLY if:

The game I want to play requires DirectX 10 or 11 or 12 or any newer edition.


I had couple of scenarios in my life when people laughed to me and said I don't know anything about computers and that they know a lot more than me just because I use old XP and they use the newest Windows 8.
But guess what...all they know is to go on Facebook,Youtube and other social sites.That's it!
On the other hand I know hardware,software,Linux/Windows operating systems,virus/data security,data recovery,Valve hammer world editor map modifying,programming (making basic or advanced software (depending on the needs)),decompiling .NET programs and fixing things or whatever the reason for decompiling procedure was...plus a lot more.

So what I noticed these days is that if you don't let's say...have a facebook profile (like me) then you are automatically "STUPID PERSON WITHOUT ABSOLUTELY ANY KNOWLEDGE FROM COMPUTERS".

LOL!

I also liked the following sentences from the post of the original poster:

Gone are the days of proper computing when computers were used by people who wanted to do a bit more than put tweets out or update their social status to inform their vast army of friends that they are having a poo or whatever. Some social networkers claim to have hundreds of 'friends', but in reality what they have is a collection of little pictures, most of which were probably copied off Google images and they have never even exchanged so much as one message with alleged person behind the image. Having a vast number of little pictures on your Facebook page does not equate to having lots of friends.

And that is SO TRUE.

Anyway all I am saying is that people like to laugh to someone who does not hang on facebook for hours and hours or to someone who does not use the newest OS and to them (those who laugh) that means:

THE PERSON WHO DOES NOT USE FACEBOOK OR USE OLDER OS = STUPID PERSON WITHOUT ANY COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE

And mostly THOSE WHO LAUGH do not know ANYTHING about computers at all.Hell they did not even install their Windows 8 OS on their computer in order to use it for damn facebook.Someone else did it for them..."SOMEONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS".

Man...those kind of people really piss me off!

The good news is that we know more than them and can always make a small keylogger software in let's say C++ (or simply buy one) and put it in their computers and later come to them and show them printed on the paper EVERY SINGLE WORD
they wrote AND the complete monitor screenshots printed ALSO on the paper of every single mouse click they performed on facebook and then ask them:

If I am stupid...and you know SO MUCH...then how is it possible that I am the one who have this?

Hehehehehe...:D:D:D
Awesome...:D:D:D

Knowledge is power!
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I have a face book account, but there are times I wished I never had gotten into it. I created it to keep in touch with family that is not near me or out of touch. I popped into it twice a day. I have no television, so I get my information from the internet. My browser home page is set to a news channel. So, when I get on it I read or watch the news first, then facebook, and I read PC World and other such magazines online. Then I come into here about 3 times a day and read the posts. I play games and watch certain shows, since I have no TV.
I never post any pictures of myself on facebook and I don't post any real info of me either.

My last OS was Windows XP Pro x64, that was a very good OS to me. Yea, it did have a few problems about drivers and such. But the OS came out way before it's time. The software and hardware companies did not want to gear up for x64 bit yet. Not till Vista came out on the market. I did all the research on it before I bought it. So I didn't come into it with cold feet. I beta tested the Windows 7 Ultimate, and I was going to get that for my next OS, till I beta tested Windows 8 Pro x64. So, now my OS is Windows 8 Pro x64 "System Builders" full version. I never really used "Aero", so I never knew much about it. I really like 8, but I am the type of person that would get something that other people would not. I have "Start 8" for my start button in 8, didn't know about classic shell or the other one that "Spirit" says till after I got "Start 8". I do go into the "UI" a lot still, there is some programs I use in it everyday.

I have been dealing with computer since the DOS days, I programmed a little and I build computers for friend's and family. And myself. But I do get a kick out of someone that thinks he is more knowledgeable than me, and sometimes I play dumb about it.

Sorry for the long message, just had to get my 2 cents in.
have a Good Day.
 
I use Windows XP, 7 and 8. Because I want to expand my knowledge, I want to have access to these Operating Systems
 
*big wall of text saying XP is great for Facebook and that I, STARS, greatly enjoy viruses on a soon-to-be unsupported OS.*

ftfy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Interesting sentence you wrote there hahahahaha!!!
You really made my laugh lol!!! :D:D:D
You're awesome!!! :D:D:D

And by the way...lol...who says I have viruses :D:D:D ?

Hey STARS I understand why you still use Windows XP.Because Windows XP is the best!!!

Ftfy. :P (Took me some time by the way)...:D

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Alright LucasBytesGenius now let's get serious.
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XP was the best OS ever until 7 came out. IMO 7 is the best so far, assuming you have a decent PC. If you still have a low end PC then XP is probably still better.
 
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