Three Questions

computerjen

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Hello all,

I'm new here, and this is my first post. I've been around computers as a user for decades, but I'm running into some questions that I'm not finding answers for. If I may, let me try to ask them here. If this is the wrong place, please let me know.

(1) DOES YOSEMITE CLOUD FILES IF I DON'T SIGN UP WITH CLOUD DRIVE. I've wondered. Background: (a) When IOS-5 came out, I upgraded one of my phones and experimented. I put a scanner beside it, took photo, noted the scanner response as it went to the cloud. I then turned off all cloud functions, repeated, and the scanner said same kind of data was sent. I called Apple, who said that didn't happen. Answer: If you turn cloud off, you're not using the service, but IOS-5 still clouds data, and Apple misrepresents that (rather like Onstar in cars). (b) Recently, I went to buy a Macbook Pro, Retina, at an electronics store, but I didn't when the man scanned the barcode and learned that the one had Maverik in it. I'd rather get one that has Yosemite already. So I went to Apple Store, thinking they may have more current stock, and they said they weren't sure which OS the Macbook Pro had, because they couldn't find out...even if the other store could. But if it was Maverik, they could upgrade it to Yosemite in 15 minutes. The issue is not that I could get the upgrade. The issue is I sensed they were trying to sell me a Maverik without disclosure, falsely, trying to get me to accept the upgrade ...

... that Apple seems to have "mislead" me twice—so I doubt them when they say files won't be clouded if I don't put them into the cloud folder on the device. I am a writer; I don't want my rough drafts to be clouded, while I work ideas out. So I'm asking you all.

(2) WHAT ABOUT FUTURE UTILITY OF OLDER LAPTOPS? I have a couple of older Snowleopard laptops, a Macbook and a Macbook Pro, both from circa 2007 or so. Plastic, white. They both work great. I've never had a problem, and I enjoy the Snowleopard. It works very well. But Gmail is beginning to complain that Snowleopard is no longer supported. I'm wondering if I need to find a way to accept a newer model, of if there's a way to keep my older stuff. (Example: If the HD ever crashed... I could have superduper backups, but I'd need to get a new drive and install that somehow.)

Thank you for any input.

Jen
 
I don't know anything about the first question.

As far as the second question, I'd say upgrade to a newer Macbook if you wanna run Yosemite. I have a 2009 Macbook and it works fine with Mavericks and Yosemite, but the hardware is still antiquated.
 
Hello all,

I'm new here, and this is my first post. I've been around computers as a user for decades, but I'm running into some questions that I'm not finding answers for. If I may, let me try to ask them here. If this is the wrong place, please let me know.

(1) DOES YOSEMITE CLOUD FILES IF I DON'T SIGN UP WITH CLOUD DRIVE. I've wondered. Background: (a) When IOS-5 came out, I upgraded one of my phones and experimented. I put a scanner beside it, took photo, noted the scanner response as it went to the cloud. I then turned off all cloud functions, repeated, and the scanner said same kind of data was sent. I called Apple, who said that didn't happen. Answer: If you turn cloud off, you're not using the service, but IOS-5 still clouds data, and Apple misrepresents that (rather like Onstar in cars). (b) Recently, I went to buy a Macbook Pro, Retina, at an electronics store, but I didn't when the man scanned the barcode and learned that the one had Maverik in it. I'd rather get one that has Yosemite already. So I went to Apple Store, thinking they may have more current stock, and they said they weren't sure which OS the Macbook Pro had, because they couldn't find out...even if the other store could. But if it was Maverik, they could upgrade it to Yosemite in 15 minutes. The issue is not that I could get the upgrade. The issue is I sensed they were trying to sell me a Maverik without disclosure, falsely, trying to get me to accept the upgrade ...

... that Apple seems to have "mislead" me twice—so I doubt them when they say files won't be clouded if I don't put them into the cloud folder on the device. I am a writer; I don't want my rough drafts to be clouded, while I work ideas out. So I'm asking you all.

(2) WHAT ABOUT FUTURE UTILITY OF OLDER LAPTOPS? I have a couple of older Snowleopard laptops, a Macbook and a Macbook Pro, both from circa 2007 or so. Plastic, white. They both work great. I've never had a problem, and I enjoy the Snowleopard. It works very well. But Gmail is beginning to complain that Snowleopard is no longer supported. I'm wondering if I need to find a way to accept a newer model, of if there's a way to keep my older stuff. (Example: If the HD ever crashed... I could have superduper backups, but I'd need to get a new drive and install that somehow.)

Thank you for any input.

Jen
1.) Do you mean iCloud? If you don't sign up with iCloud, nothing will be stored on iCloud.

If you are buying a Mac from a small electronics store, having it come with Mavericks seems pretty normal since it's still very new. It's a free download, just go to the App Store and download Yosemite for free.

It sounds like the stores are "misleading" you, not Apple. If you buy a Mac from Apple, it comes with Yosemite. Again, it's not difficult to install it, just click "Upgrade" from the App Store.

Just install Chrome or Firefox on your Snow Leopard laptops, Safari doesn't get updated besides security updates once a new OS comes out.

You can run Mavericks or Yosemite on older hardware, but on a 2007 MacBook it will run slow. You should really have at least 4GB of RAM, and use an SSD.
 
Thank you for info. I've upgraded to Firefox, and now the notice on Gmail about my browser (safari) being unsupported is not there. Gmail seems to like the new version of Firefox.

On upgrading to Yosemite on laptops, Apple http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/?cid=wwa-us-kwg-mac-com says that a Macbook from *late* 2008 is upgradeable, which seems to be the Macbook4,2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook where mine is the 4,1 from *early*2008, if that Wiki info is correct.

I like the look of Yosemite. I like my old love Snowleopard best. I can use Firefox as a browser, so...........

........I find myself asking you all, more learned than I in this area,

(1) if the Macbook4,1 will become problematic as we move into the future if I keep it as Snowleopard, and

(2) If I will not use Itunes or Iphoto, various apps, etc., (Just produce documents)—I really only prefer to use MS WORD for .doc files (not .docx)—then is there really any reason to upgrade to Yosemite, anyway?

Thank you all

Jen
 
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