I need your opinion about my first gaming build :P

winston

winston

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Hi, I hope you are all having a great day

After building my first ever computer last year using only parts I found in the garbage, I am ready to build my first gaming computer. I come from ps3 and APU gaming so this will be a big deal of a project for me and I want to get it right.

I am planning on using this computer for gaming and basic office work. The games I want to play are "War Thunder" and "Age Of Empires IV" (when it comes out). I would like to get 50-60 fps with high or max settings and HD gameplay. When it comes to budget I am looking for a something under 1500 CAD/ 1200 USD/ 1000 EUR (before taxes) for the machine (excluding screen, mouse, keyboard). I want my setup to be as future proof as possible (cpu, ram, gpu uprades).

I would like to hear your recommandations for the specs and parts I should look for. So far I had these specs in mind:

-500GB SSD
-16 GB DDR4
-3-4Ghz CPU
-1060/1070/1080 GPU (I know the top ones are probably beyond my budget :'( F"/$% miners )

Are these specs enough for my needs? What parts (model/brand) should I buy? Is my budget big enough for what I want?


Thank you very very much!

-Winston
 
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Cisco001

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Which country?

Probably ryzen 5 2600X and X470 motherboard with GTX 1060 6GB will suit the budget
 
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beers

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Hi friend

The games you listed are pretty low on the requirement side. Even the new AoE won't be too outlandish, something like a 1060 would handle what you want with some extra life to it down the road.

Stuff like the Ryzen 2600 or comparable i5 are usually the best cost/performance plays.
 
winston

winston

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Cisco001 said:
Which country?
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Canada :p

Cisco001 said:
Probably ryzen 5 2600X and X470 motherboard with GTX 1060 6GB will suit the budget
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Great, thanks!

beers said:
Hi friend

The games you listed are pretty low on the requirement side. Even the new AoE won't be too outlandish, something like a 1060 would handle what you want with some extra life to it down the road.

Stuff like the Ryzen 2600 or comparable i5 are usually the best cost/performance plays.
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Thank you, I will look into these :)

Cisco001 said:
Personally won't go Intel if you after a bit of future proof. They change socket too often.
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Thanks for the tip!
 
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Shlouski

Shlouski

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Cisco001 said:
Personally won't go Intel if you after a bit of future proof. They change socket too often.
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This may apply to some enthusiasts like yourself, but from my experience the average user, and especially those who have invested quite a bit of money on their PC's, want them to last a while, potentially 5 or more years. I love PC's too, just went from my 2012 i7 3770k to a i7 8700k, so 6 years and really honestly for gaming it was a pointless upgrade as I see no benefit in any game with my gtx 1080 at 1080p or 4k, I just really wanted a NVME drive.

Winston these cpu's are quite powerful and should last you a while, there maybe a few more cpu's coming out for the AM4 socket, but potentially by the time you want to upgrade AM5 and ddr5 (3-5 years) may have already been released and most of the time it is not cost effective to spend money on old components, when you could be using that money to buy new much more powerful components. With both Intel and AMD you will still be able to upgrade to the flagship cpu released for that socket, no matter which you buy you should be able to game for years with only gpu upgrades and by the time you need to upgrade, AM5, DDR5 and whatever socket Intel is on by then would have be released.
 
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winston

winston

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Shlouski said:
This may apply to some enthusiasts like yourself, but from my experience the average user, and especially those who have invested quite a bit of money on their PC's, want them to last a while, potentially 5 or more years. I love PC's too, just went from my 2012 i7 3770k to a i7 8700k, so 6 years and really honestly for gaming it was a pointless upgrade as I see no benefit in any game with my gtx 1080 at 1080p or 4k, I just really wanted a NVME drive.

Winston these cpu's are quite powerful and should last you a while, there maybe a few more cpu's coming out for the AM4 socket, but potentially by the time you want to upgrade AM5 and ddr5 (3-5 years) may have already been released and most of the time it is not cost effective to spend money on old components, when you could be using that money to buy new much more powerful components. With both Intel and AMD you will still be able to upgrade to the flagship cpu released for that socket, no matter which you buy you should be able to game for years with only gpu upgrades and by the time you need to upgrade, AM5, DDR5 and whatever socket Intel is on by then would have be released.
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I am not sure to understand what you mean :p... You are simply saying that intel or AMD will be both as good for my situation?
 
Shlouski

Shlouski

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Yes.

The most cost effective way to game in my opinion is to buy the best performing PC for the money and doing gpu upgrades when you desire. Buy a new PC once the bottleneck turns from gpu to cpu, that should take a few years. By far, most games are much more gpu demanding than cpu, so save your money for buying new gpu's. There are some exceptions of course, but if you have bought a half decent cpu, one which is cost effective for gaming, then it should run even these games well into the future. Once your computer starts to age there may be some games being released that cause your cpu to bottleneck a little, still its hardly worth upgrading just because one or two games your playing are being held back a little by the cpu, just lower the setting a bit. My Q9550 only started to bottleneck demanding cpu games like GTA5 with anything over a gtx780, so that's a 2008 cpu with the best card of 2013, so 5-6 years to bottleneck with the best card on the market, this is just an example not a law. My 6 year old 3770k can still push my gtx 1080 to 100% load, as far as I'm aware in all games, it certainly can in gta5 and a few other newer demanding games I've tried. I'm not pro/anti amd or intel, just get the best performing cpu for the money.
Obsolescence rather all depends on the speed of improvements to cpu and gpu technology in the future and to what degree game developers take advantage of these improvements, I can't predict any of this, but I've had years of experience and give you my opinions.
 
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winston

winston

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Shlouski said:
Yes.

The most cost effective way to game in my opinion is to buy the best performing PC for the money and doing gpu upgrades when you desire. Buy a new PC once the bottleneck turns from gpu to cpu, that should take a few years. By far, most games are much more gpu demanding than cpu, so save your money for buying new gpu's. There are some exceptions of course, but if you have bought a half decent cpu, one which is cost effective for gaming, then it should run even these games well into the future. Once your computer starts to age there may be some games being released that cause your cpu to bottleneck a little, still its hardly worth upgrading just because one or two games your playing are being held back a little by the cpu, just lower the setting a bit. My Q9550 only started to bottleneck demanding cpu games like GTA5 with anything over a gtx780, so that's a 2008 cpu with the best card of 2013, so 5-6 years to bottleneck with the best card on the market, this is just an example not a law. My 6 year old 3770k can still push my gtx 1080 to 100% load, as far as I'm aware in all games, it certainly can in gta5 and a few other newer demanding games I've tried. I'm not pro/anti amd or intel, just get the best performing cpu for the money.
Obsolescence rather all depends on the speed of improvements to cpu and gpu technology in the future and to what degree game developers take advantage of these improvements, I can't predict any of this, but I've had years of experience and give you my opinions.
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Thanks for your answer! Do you think the rayzen 2600x is a good option?
 
winston

winston

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Just to make sure, every DDR4 Ram stick works with every DDR4 Mobo right? I know speed compatibility in ideal but regardless of speed, would it work? Thanks!
 
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Cisco001

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Samsung 970 EVO should be available in 2 weeks.

BTW, you can get budget SSD for 500GB for the similar price. I always wonder if you really can feel the difference between cheaper SSD and more expensive.
 
winston

winston

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I am pretty much done choosing my parts but I can't decide what GPU to get here are my choices with prices in canada:

-GTX 1050 2GB 190$
-GTX 1050ti 4GB 290$
-GTX 1060 3GB 340$
-GTX 1060 6GB 409$

Which one should I choose considering I would like 60fps in 1080p with max settings in War Thunder?

Thanks
 
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Margrave Brandenburg

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Based on your part pickers listing ... I'd say skip the build.
You can get a better desktop from Dell for that money ... with a warranty.
And with double the SSD.
And an HDD.
 
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