Who can identify this graphics card by looking at it's chip?

Shlouski

VIP Member
That white sticker should tell you what you need to know, but the picture quality is too bad for me to tell. It looks like Nvidia GTX 960 1GDR5
 

vincent1986

New Member
Now Let me add a few more pictures.
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DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GTX 960 4GB? IT HAS A DVI PORT AND A VGA PORT WHICH I DON'T THINK IS PROPER AND THE CASE LOOKS FUNNY IT LOOKS LIKE CASES FOUND IN THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO.
See any similarities
 

_Kyle_

Well-Known Member
Never owned a GTX 960 but I feel like the ports are way off. Looking at some photos on Google of genuine ones I'm almost sure the one you have is fake.

Also, what is that monstrosity of a controller in the first picture, lol.
 

vincent1986

New Member
Never owned a GTX 960 but I feel like the ports are way off. Looking at some photos on Google of genuine ones I'm almost sure the one you have is fake.

Also, what is that monstrosity of a controller in the first picture, lol.

Im not the guy in the picture lol the guy in the picture is the guy who sold me this fake gpu it turned out to be a gts 450 what a scammer im definitely getting my money back from this fraudster.
 

Intel_man

VIP Member
Only real way to tell is to pop off that cooler, clean the thermal paste off and look at the etched part number on the gpu die.
 

Cromewell

Administrator
Staff member
Aren't those read through the card's firmware? The fake gpus get flashed with one that tricks even gpu-z or hwinfo into thinking they're newer gpus.
Doesn't that mess the driver too then? I've never actually seen one of these.
 

Intel_man

VIP Member
Doesn't that mess the driver too then? I've never actually seen one of these.
Somewhat. Jayztwocents and Gamersnexus did videos on fake gpus. The fake cards run "normally" but the performance is awful because they're typically gtx 650 ti inside with a custom gtx 960 firmware.
 

Shlouski

VIP Member
Somewhat. Jayztwocents and Gamersnexus did videos on fake gpus. The fake cards run "normally" but the performance is awful because they're typically gtx 650 ti inside with a custom gtx 960 firmware.

I wouldn't say they ran normally, it wasn't just poor performance, they caused crashes and artifacts, but they would work as intended if they had the correct bios.
 

Intel_man

VIP Member
they caused crashes and artifacts,
That's basically what happens when you try to run demanding games on fairly weak and old hardware. It's not a definitive answer into saying it's all solely due to the firmware hack.

They run "normally" to your average consumer until you put it through its paces with demanding titles.

@Cromewell, there's other ways of figuring out if it's a fake gpu too, but most people that are buying stuff like this wouldn't have a clue about it (involves looking at who makes VRMs or other chip controllers on the board. Some of them use ancient out of business chips that can give you a rough timeline of when the board is made. This is way more technical than just cleaning off the thermal paste off the die and checking out the serial number.)
 

Shlouski

VIP Member
That's basically what happens when you try to run demanding games on fairly weak and old hardware

I disagree, even an old card is running an API it was designed for, so it wont usually crash or artifact, it will just run at lower fps. In Jayztwocents video the card was artifacting in csgo, my friend still uses an 8800gt to play csgo and it does the job perfectly, even though it was released 5 years before the 650ti.
The reason why most of these cards have problems is because of the incompatible bios, this leads to many problems, incompatible architectures, incorrect clock speeds, incorrect memory values and incompatible drivers, amongst others.

It's not a definitive answer into saying it's all solely due to the firmware hack

True, but it is very likely.
 
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