Does A Cooler Processor Run Slower???

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Teletubby

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I was wondering, if I use speedfan to make my CPU fan, and also my Case Fan run full all the time, which would cause the entire case, and cpu temperature to go down, would I be sacrificing processor performance, or increasing it? The reason is I have this crappy Geforce 6200 TC video card, and I opened my case for the first time today on my new computer, and I find it has a passive heatsink!!! And not even a really big one. I think in order to run a VGA cooler you hafta have another PCI or wtva slot available, and all mine are used up. Im thinking of running my case and cpu fans at full, so at least the ambient temp. will be lower, which will enable me to overclock my vid card a little at least. Does anybody know if the arctic cooling silencer 5 has to have an available slot open or whatever? or can it just mount onto the existing cards gpu?? BTW, I got a look at my pentium D 820 today...that is the largest heatsink I have ever seen...it makes the Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 (http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=92&disc=) look tiny :D its probably at least another inch taller of heatsink, and a bigger fan too....crazy stuff
 
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On the vga coolers you would have to look at the vendor information and instructions for installation. The answer to your subject line is obviosly no in just all but a few circumstances. The idea of increased cooling is to keep a chip or cpu from overheating when it is pushed to run faster. OCing is about making something run faster then stock. Due to the increase seen in temps when loading any hardware extra cooling is then applied to avoid damage to hardwares.
 
neither. that answer is that no matter what, the cpu should perform about the same. frequency matters when it comes to performance (not to mention architecture), which should increase heat a little bit. performance doesn't really have a whole lot to do with the amount of heat.

it has a passive heatsink because it doesn't produce a lot of heat. if a warmer processor meant more performance, then why would they put huge fans on 7900gtx cards? lol
 
Sure you can run it at full speed, just cut the white wire. (I'm not joking)
My old PC's cooler run at full speed, i cut the white wire.
 
fade2green514 said:
neither. that answer is that no matter what, the cpu should perform about the same. frequency matters when it comes to performance (not to mention architecture), which should increase heat a little bit. performance doesn't really have a whole lot to do with the amount of heat.

it has a passive heatsink because it doesn't produce a lot of heat. if a warmer processor meant more performance, then why would they put huge fans on 7900gtx cards? lol
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OCing and placng a heavy load on a cpu or vpu are two different things. Yet both see an increase in heat. When OCing it is a little more important to keep hardware cooled since that stresses your hardware along with seeing a faster increase in temps. The lower the better there.

They developed vpu coolers and water coolers for video cards so people could OC cards. Often the problems seen with OCed cards of overheating is while gaming, running any graphic intense programs, or even demands placed by multimedia playback. A passive heat transfer is often not enough. The added vpu cooler insures the vpu doesn't cook.
 
Ill run my fans full speed then...The reason I asked in the first place was that I heard something like "for every 15 degrees cooler your cpu is, it will last 10% longer". Also, I think I will buy a different heatsink system for my card so I can overclock it. I have tried overclocking it using coolbits, and I found a pretty significant increase in performance, believe it or not. I usually run NFS Most Wanted, at 1024x768 at pretty low settings. With overclocking I can run it 1024x768 at full graphics settings...pretty crazy. Can anybody recommend a good gpu cooler that would work with my card?
 
The temperature/lifetime ratio is different for every core, be it CPU or GPU. ATI for example says that for every -/+10°C (idle) the lifetime will increase/decrease by 50%.
 
performance doesn't really have a whole lot to do with the amount of heat.
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true, but it could matter a lot, especially at the extremes... in this case however you're right, i doubt it will create an performace increase (unless you oc in the new decreased temp envolope)

ATI for example says that for every -/+10°C (idle) the lifetime will increase/decrease by 50%
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Im not saying its wrong.. but id be interested to know where you read this
 
lol just by running all my PC's fans at full, I go from a gpu core idle temperature of around 80 degrees Celcius, to around 60! :D Also, I was wondering, when I overclock I sometimes will get gpu core temperatures of 100-110 degrees celcius. Is this a safe temperature? Will it damage any hardware? In the nvidia control panel, the core temperature threshhold (when it forces cooldown or whatever) is when it reaches 145 degrees celcius. So I am assuming anything like 100-110 degrees is fine right?
Also, the heatsink of my video card is facing downward, I dont know if this is normal or not but it is quite close to another card in the slot below the graphics card. Right below the heatsink of the gpu (approx a centimeter maybe) is a card for like cable decoding for tv and stuff.
 
80C is well within normal for a video card when gaming. Once you start climbing over 100C to where you see the 110C you are getting close to overheating there. Running any hardware maxed out whether it is a vpu or cpu places some high stress levels and can shorten the life of it pretty fast.

A good load on the card only seeing 80-90C would show adequate cooling is there. That's the norm seen by those that OC when gaming on many model cards. When you start seeing temps climb fast you know right then you don't have a cooler installed to prevent overheating. I would set the shutdown below the 145C to prevent damage anyway. You are running warm at 100-110C
 
thanks! I probalby would of overheated my gpu if you didnt tell me that! :D
I will install a fan or something to cool the gpu down. Even if I buy a artic cooling nv silencer 6, its like 45$ Canadian, which is cheaper than a new card.
 
After running the system here for a full 19hrs. straight after media playing, gaming, and a few other things I was surprised to see a 32C board temp and 33C cpu temp. I can imagine the stock temp of the card here was also somewhat low. Why? Having additional air flow with a good cooler on the cpu. Now imagine adding something like Silencer 6 to the Radeon X1300 Pro and pushing it up a little. Protect your hardware first.
 
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80C is well within normal for a video card when gaming. Once you start climbing over 100C to where you see the 110C you are getting close to overheating there.
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this depends completely on the card, my 6800GT was 80*C idle, and it went up to 120*C under full load ( ok, the speeds were 430/1100 )
and for my current cards, the core slowdown temperature is 115*C, while of my 6800GT it was 130*C. so it depends completely on the card ( my old ati rage 128 fried at 90*C even :P )
 
Archangel said:
this depends completely on the card, my 6800GT was 80*C idle, and it went up to 120*C under full load ( ok, the speeds were 430/1100 )
and for my current cards, the core slowdown temperature is 115*C, while of my 6800GT it was 130*C. so it depends completely on the card ( my old ati rage 128 fried at 90*C even :P )
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those temps are twice as much as my 6800XT temps... thats not good.
 
Archangel said:
this depends completely on the card, my 6800GT was 80*C idle, and it went up to 120*C under full load ( ok, the speeds were 430/1100 )
and for my current cards, the core slowdown temperature is 115*C, while of my 6800GT it was 130*C. so it depends completely on the card ( my old ati rage 128 fried at 90*C even :P )
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The thing that Teletubby needs to watch there is the shutoff temp of 145C! That would certainly do some undesirable things. I haven't quite pushed the MSI Radeon X1300 Pro here quite yet to see just where it would end up.
 
For Power = More Heat, if you have Less Heat Then = you can do more power. Simple. Microchips dont work properly under massive heats, Keep Box Cold. If it worked better warm, then y invent Water Coolers
 
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