Would YOU buy an Alienware Desktop?

Its not like that. Its just we would rather save a few bucks and put in 30 minutes of work putting it together.
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Thats my point entirely .... time is money ... thats why people get paid to goto work ;)

Why would you pay yourself?.......
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You've obviously missed my point...

As you guys get older you will realize that time is money. Your time will always be worth something, even if you're smokin' a dube with the old lady.

You have to put a value on your time. Would you work for $5.00/hr? $10? $50? I work for $50/hr. I assessed what I felt my time was worth and what I would be comfortable dealing with someone else's headaches. Did you realize that it is not worth it for Bill Gates to stoop down and pick up a $100 bill? Just as an amusing example. Knowing him he probably would though.. lol

Anyways.. I was at the bank the other day. The moron in front of me obviously ran a business, and he was taking up all kinds of time cross-examining the teller because they charged him an extra $2.50. He probably used up $40 worth of time for a piddly 2 and a half bucks.

So, when you build a rig you have to factor in what it would cost you to make it if you make this comparison. I charge about $130 labour to build a rig. Give or take, depending on the machine. So maybe use that as your starting point.

You don't work for free, do you?
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Ah, finally someone who pays their own rent ;)

Well you can't base everything on a saying "time is money." Some times you just got to enjoy life and take time to smell the roses.
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In that case, go buy an Alienware. ;)

But dont you think the labor and research cost would still underway of buying the Desktop itself. If you want to think of it as money, then think of it like that. But time is presious, we all know that. And as we get older, time get shorter. But maybe its time we enjoy life. Not worry about it.
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Which is exactly why YOU might not buy an Alienware but someone ELSE might. There are parallels everywhere:
- Some people make their own ammunition
- Some people cook all the time and damn near never eat out
- Some people would prefer to build their furniture
- Some people go crazy nuts on their cars and some dont
- Some people go crazy nuts on their computers and others simply buy an off the shelf model.

No argument, making your own is cheaper.
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That's because, no offence ... you're time is literally worthless to you. Now consider this scenario (while it might not literally apply to you, you should be able get my point) -- suppose, for work or whatever, you need to have a computer built by tomorow. Normally not a big deal. Now suppose you've got a wedding/funeral/major event to go to. So ... do you go to this event? Or do you spend time building your computer? Not everyone has the time to sit back and build computers leisurely.
 
Praetor said:
Ah, finally someone who pays their own rent ;)
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Yeah, I have been since I was 17. Sadly I didn't learn that valuable lesson until 1997 from a very good friend of mine. That was one of the legacies/life lessons he left me, other than my company name, when he died a very sudden and premature death in 2000. :(
 
Even if we did charge ourselfs labor to build our own computer, did you think the Alienware would be cheaper than a newegg computer and our labor?
 
bigsaucybob said:
Even if we did charge ourselfs labor to build our own computer, did you think the Alienware would be cheaper than a newegg computer and our labor?
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Depends. Alienware can be several hundred to maybe even a thousand dollars more expensive then Newegg.

I can understand that time isnt free, but I would rather spend an hour of my own time that would normally be spent just sitting around, to build the computer. Now if I had an extremely bus lifestyle, I would go with either ibuypower.com or cyberpower.com, since they have the same service, but there labor/parts fee is much lower.
 
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Well that's a silly comparison -- for the Alienware you're paying for labour and warrnaty ... so if you want a meaninful comparison, we need to factor in labor and warranty into our prices as well -- and yes that includes the time it takes for product research. Now, under a more realistic light, Alienware boxes, while overpriced, arent that terrible.
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agreed, If you want a good gaming pc, and dont want to build it yourself, Alianware is a good option imo. Their pc's are very good balanced, and also quality build. ok,.. i wouldnt buy one, because i dont like the look of their case's.. but thats a different story :o

edit: let me add an example.. when you want a really nice gaming pc, but you have absolutely no clue about building a pc. no affence against my boyfriend.. but i'd rather have Alienware build my pc then, as him doing it :P i mean.. lienware really balances the components out, and their system run really nice and stable. sure.. you can build a pc yourself.. but if something breaks? i'd rather have some warranty then.
 
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Even if we did charge ourselfs labor to build our own computer, did you think the Alienware would be cheaper than a newegg computer and our labor?
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Well comparing the two:
- Going the Alienware/Dell route will prolly have a lesser hardware cost as they have bulk deals with OEMs
- You will however have to pay for labour and warranty
- Shipping a complete computer will be more than the sum of the parts (insurance being the major issue)
- The effective difference will be that Alienware will be selling for a profit and you would be "selling" for $0 profit
 
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So your labour is worth $0 to you? lol ... get enough people like you and you can change the minimum wage laws to $0/hr. lol
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My labor isn't worth $0 to me, but to most other people, it is. Being 14, I can't legally work (well, at least here in CT) in many places. I get paid close to minimum wage to be an aide in a hebrew school class for 2 hours once a week. So, let's say my labor, to the coporate world, is worth $8/hour. Say it takes me an hour to build a computer...well then that's $8 of labor. Still damn cheaper than an Alienware.

edit: Another example: When my dad says that he needs help polishing silver (he owns an antique silver business) I charge him $15/hour. Even so, assuming that it takes me the same 1 hour to build the computer, that's still only $15 of labor. Once again a lot cheaper than a preassembled computer.
 
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^ Good point,same goes for me since im 15,i have a job and make 8 dollars cdn an hour,not much.But companies like Dell and Alienware charge labor for the work + they want a profit from it aswell as the computer,while when you build it yourself,you dont really have to pay those extra expenses so that the company makes the profit.Though i can see where Praetor and Sir Kenin are coming from.People are too busy and some just do not have any computer smarts,and feel more reliability in an experienced company than their own hands,plus many just dont have the time.
 
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To me the Alienware Desktops are over priced, but then again, would you buy an Alienware? Jone me in a quest to find the most expensive Alienware on alienware.com and then lets find all the parts that its made of and see if we can't build that thing for cheaper. Come on people, lets just embark on this journey and see what we discover, is Alienware a RIP OFF? Or is it a GOOD DEAL? And yes, I do need your help on this. Join me on this mission. Its time to discover the truth. Plus, does Alienware use Geforce or ATI and maybe even why (if they only use GeForce that is).
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I'll stick with the Apple.
 
you guys have gone off on a huge tangent


and for the question i would buy only if i got a huge discount, even tho there cases are gay as hell
 
Nope,I wouldnt buy one.

Because...

There highly overpriced.

I saw a clip on youtube of this guys new Alienware computer and i mean his specs on that system were huge.

But it loaded so slow at the windows loading screen and also loaded HL2 Very slow too.

Mine loads windows faster than what his did and he had like 2Gb of ram :D
 
Is it alienware that is incredible with cable management? If I was rich enough to not care about the overpricing, I'd get one to save me tucking the cables away.
 
The most expensive config is like $7,000. I could build a machine like that for like $5,000. So $2,000 for labor and waranty? That's a ripoff in my opinion.
 
that is very true same with falcon or dell.Falcon has pc's for 8 thousand and you could build the same for about 5 thousand.And for 5 thousand i think you get like the best computer out there right now.
 
you can configure a whole desktop setup for 12 thousand,and i think on voodoo i once configured a 22,000 dollar computer lol
 
My labor isn't work $0 to me, but to most other people, it is. Being 14, I can't legally work (well, at least here in CT) in many places. I get paid close to minimum wage to be an aide in a hebrew school class for 2 hours once a week. So, if my labor is worth to the coporate world, say $8/hour. Say it takes me an hour to build a computer...well then that's $8 of labor. Still damn cheaper than an Alienware.
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^ Good point,same goes for me since im 15,i have a job and make 8 dollars cdn an hour,not much.But companies like Dell and Alienware charge labor for the work + they want a profit from it aswell as the computer,while when you build it yourself,you dont really have to pay those extra expenses so that the company makes the profit.Though i can see where Praetor and Sir Kenin are coming from.People are too busy and some just do not have any computer smarts,and feel more reliability in an experienced company than their own hands,plus many just dont have the time.
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Oh yeah i know what you meant when the thread was started ... just pointing out a different perspective. :) For the record I highly doubt the people working for Alienware are getting paid minimum wage ;)

@Iluvpenuins .... do you goto KCI? GRCI?

Mine loads windows faster than what his did and he had like 2Gb of ram
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Unfortunately it's not RAM-dependent :)




As far as expensive rigs go ... i seem to recall a certain spec coming close to $100K ;)
 
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