Moniter Conundrum?

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Necopotence

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Howdy agian guys! I finally got my new computer up and running, its listed in my sig, that you guys helped me build and even gave me tech. support when I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't boot. (The problem being that the voltage on my OCZ Ram was to high for the default setting on the Mobo, thanks Rambo.)

Its time to upgrade my 17"CRT moniter to something that will make my Video Editing experience alittle easier on the eyes. I know that 5ms is standard for a good gaming moniter. A good DIP is around 0.284 (could be alittle low). I'm going for widescreen and more then likley 19" because anything else is kind of excessive. I however am not sure of a good number for Brightness and Contrast. I've seen people say that a good Contrast is 1000:1, but that seems insane considering everything on newegg between $200-$300 is only 700:1 and under, very few 800:1 and none above these that I've seen. :confused:

And I know this may sound odd, but what is the tech. term of the shiny gloss you see on some LCD moniters? It seem like it might just be glass or something similar. I like the clearness of the ones I've seen with this gloss look or am I just imagining it?

With these things in mind, any "can't go wrong" or "you would be blind not to" moniters out there right now? I've been scouring Newegg for almost 2 weeks now and I'm just not comfortable making a desicion without your imput here at these awesome forums. Any held you can give would be taken as gold. :)
 
Necopotence said:
I however am not sure of a good number for Brightness and Contrast. I've seen people say that a good Contrast is 1000:1, but that seems insane considering everything on newegg between $200-$300 is only 700:1 and under, very few 800:1 and none above these that I've seen. :confused:
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I am not able to see a difference between 300:1 (my dad's monitor) and 500:1 (my monitor, both 19" LCDs) Anything over 300 is fine for regular usage, but I would recommend at least 500. 1000 is rather excessive.....
And I know this may sound odd, but what is the tech. term of the shiny gloss you see on some LCD moniters? It seem like it might just be glass or something similar. I like the clearness of the ones I've seen with this gloss look or am I just imagining it?
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You're not imagining it. I've used both kinds, and I like them both. The non-glossy gives a softer image, while the glossy seems to have a better image (note, i said seems) but it also is pretty reflective. I prefer the non-shiny kind.

With these things in mind, any "can't go wrong" or "you would be blind not to" moniters out there right now? I've been scouring Newegg for almost 2 weeks now and I'm just not comfortable making a desicion without your imput here at these awesome forums. Any held you can give would be taken as gold.
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Viewsonic and Acer are always good brands
 
Bobo said:
I am not able to see a difference between 300:1 (my dad's monitor) and 500:1 (my monitor, both 19" LCDs) Anything over 300 is fine for regular usage, but I would recommend at least 500. 1000 is rather excessive.....
You're not imagining it. I've used both kinds, and I like them both. The non-glossy gives a softer image, while the glossy seems to have a better image (note, i said seems) but it also is pretty reflective. I prefer the non-shiny kind.

Viewsonic and Acer are always good brands
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Thanks for the response. I do see alot of suggestions for Viewsonic and Acer.
 
Archangel said:
I have a Philips 19"LCD, and i really like it :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824133016
700:1 and 8ms response.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I've been reading the forum for so long, however, that the 8ms on that moniter scares me. I'm not an hardcore gamer but I do alot of video editing where frame times are important.

I honestly don't have enough personal exp. with moniters to make a good judgement on MS factor.
 
tlarkin said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002122

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002317

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002147

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002146

These are a few I found all 8ms response time or lower
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That first and last moniter are pretty nice. If the first one was widescreen and came in black that would prob. have been my fav. thus far. The last one comes with speakers built in, and I really don't need that.
 
Its time to upgrade my 17"CRT moniter to something that will make my Video Editing experience alittle easier on the eyes. I know that 5ms is standard for a good gaming moniter. A good DIP is around 0.284 (could be alittle low). I'm going for widescreen and more then likley 19" because anything else is kind of excessive. I however am not sure of a good number for Brightness and Contrast. I've seen people say that a good Contrast is 1000:1, but that seems insane considering everything on newegg between $200-$300 is only 700:1 and under, very few 800:1 and none above these that I've seen. :confused:
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8ms is fine and anything under that is a bonus. I gave my 3ms Viewsonic to my wife and bought an 8ms Viewsonic for myself. It was a trade off, slower screen (still great for games) and higher contrast (better for games!). There is also the 8bit vs 6bit which has to do with color depth. This is overlooked by many and honestly shouldn't concern most. If you are into video and or photo editing it just might. Now high speed screens usually lower this to 6bit! You'll most likely find most 8bit panels in about the 8ms range (such as mine). 6bit will generate fewer colors. It should only matter to you if you do photo editing or similar tasks.

8 bit usually means about 16.7 million colors
6 bit usually means about 16.2 million colors

Some will tell you that you wont see a difference with higher contrast... You will, I certainly did anyhow. If your going to do video editing then do yourself the favour and get the higher contrast if you can. When I watched Video on the "Viewsonic Extreme VX924" a 3ms at 500:1 it was horrible! When I watch video on my "Viewsonic VP930b" a 8ms 1000:1 it looks as good as it did on my old CRT. Higher Contrast means darker blacks in games also (and video etc.) If you play any game like Doom3 etc. You'll love the higher contrast. If anyone thinks that 1000:1 is exessive... then I think 300:1 is sickly :). 500:1 is just OK and 700:1/800:1 is good... 1000:1 is great.

And I know this may sound odd, but what is the tech. term of the shiny gloss you see on some LCD moniters? It seem like it might just be glass or something similar. I like the clearness of the ones I've seen with this gloss look or am I just imagining it?
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Not sure the tech term for it but I'd assume it is plastic. It's great for protection of the screen... yes the picture even "seems" to look better somehow, some say colors pop more with it. One great thing with LCD's though is that you do not get much glare from the screens, If you have that protector on it though you will... so that is one thing to consider.

I'm not going to make any specific recommendations. There are tons to look at our there and we all have very different tastes. Keep in mind though that individual company's measure response times differently. Some are Grey to Grey... Some are Black to White, 8ms black to white is better then 8ms grey to grey I believe. When buying something like a monitor it helps to decide on a couple then read as many reviews as you can on each. If they turn out not to be the one for you then choose a couple more and begin the process again. Never listen to just one source and don't take someones comments to heart if they've never used the darn thing ;).
 
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Necopotence said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I've been reading the forum for so long, however, that the 8ms on that moniter scares me. I'm not an hardcore gamer but I do alot of video editing where frame times are important.
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Ive been playing unreal tournament with this Monitor.. no ghosting at all :)
I use my pc only for gaming (as the setup might suggest :P ), and its perfectly fine for me.
 
Blue said:
8ms is fine and anything under that is a bonus. I gave my 3ms Viewsonic to my wife and bought an 8ms Viewsonic for myself. It was a trade off, slower screen (still great for games) and higher contrast (better for games!). There is also the 8bit vs 6bit which has to do with color depth. This is overlooked by many and honestly shouldn't concern most. If you are into video and or photo editing it just might. Now high speed screens usually lower this to 6bit! You'll most likely find most 8bit panels in about the 8ms range (such as mine). 6bit will generate fewer colors. It should only matter to you if you do photo editing or similar tasks.

8 bit usually means about 16.7 million colors
6 bit usually means about 16.2 million colors

Some will tell you that you wont see a difference with higher contrast... You will, I certainly did anyhow. If your going to do video editing then do yourself the favour and get the higher contrast if you can. When I watched Video on the "Viewsonic Extreme VX924" a 3ms at 500:1 it was horrible! When I watch video on my "Viewsonic VP930b" a 8ms 1000:1 it looks as good as it did on my old CRT. Higher Contrast means darker blacks in games also (and video etc.) If you play any game like Doom3 etc. You'll love the higher contrast. If anyone thinks that 1000:1 is exessive... then I think 300:1 is sickly :). 500:1 is just OK and 700:1/800:1 is good... 1000:1 is great.



Not sure the tech term for it but I'd assume it is plastic. It's great for protection of the screen... yes the picture even "seems" to look better somehow, some say colors pop more with it. One great thing with LCD's though is that you do not get much glare from the screens, If you have that protector on it though you will... so that is one thing to consider.

I'm not going to make any specific recommendations. There are tons to look at our there and we all have very different tastes. Keep in mind though that individual company's measure response times differently. Some are Grey to Grey... Some are Black to White, 8ms black to white is better then 8ms grey to grey I believe. When buying something like a monitor it helps to decide on a couple then read as many reviews as you can on each. If they turn out not to be the one for you then choose a couple more and begin the process again. Never listen to just one source and don't take someones comments to heart if they've never used the darn thing ;).
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Informative as always Blue! :D
 
Archangel said:
Ive been playing unreal tournament with this Monitor.. no ghosting at all :)
I use my pc only for gaming (as the setup might suggest :P ), and its perfectly fine for me.
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I suppose I just want to make the cake and eat it too. You know, get the best of everything for not as much money. I've seen some pretty nice moniters and this is the first time in my 24 years that I've had the money to upgrade my computer to the point in which I'm satisfied.

Thanks for the info!
 
I know the feeling... and it is goooood :D

besides.. its always good to inform.. I hardly think my monitor is the best one around, but its good, and it forfill's its purpose for me perfectly :)
 
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