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newguy5

newguy5

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so i bought a couple of new components today:

amd athlon 64 3200+
1 gb 667mhz ddr2 ram
ecs k8m890m-m motherboard
geforce 7600gt video

hooked everything up exactly how it's supposed to be hooked up and everything powered up, but the monitor said "no response" and nothing happened. i changed several things and the problem continued to persist. i could not hear a post beep code because this motherboard apparently has no place to hook up the internal speaker to hear the post code.

irritated, i half-assed put my old computer together and it works like a charm. all the power cords as well as the hd/cd-rom cords were exactly as they were before, just on a different mobo. i have no idea what the problem was, and no sound or display does not help.

i tried the onboard video as well as the geforce and neither worked.

please give me your opinion as to what the problem could be attributed to.
 
Go over the board's diagram very carefully where the pins for the front panel harness plug in on the first small block on pins or the second one if there for two specific speaker pins. That's generally where you plug in the internal speaker if one isn't already on the board itself.

If anything the beep code wouldn't be a single default beep but the error code pointing to the defective memory, cpu, or video card if not in use now. When you mention "just a different mobo" is that the new board? If it is you know that is good since the system is running normally. Bad cpu, memory, or vid card are the things to look at. A bad cpu or memory should see something onscreen pointing at the vid card itself?
 
no, diff mobo. the new components i listed were the only things changed when i went back to my "old" computer. what could cause a problem like this OTHER than a defective part if everything is clearly hooked up properly?
 
If you don't see or hear "anything" and thoroughly went over all connections to make you didn't reverse plug or leave something off like the four wire 12v cpu plug with two yellow and two black wires coming directly off of the supply which will see a system fail to boot mainly and no fans running? That could be the board there. Last spring I was asked to debug two boards of the same make and model to see why nothing there came on. When a third board was requested under dealer warranty(different model) the system went right together to see a reliable build still running good at this time.
 
the cpu 4 wire thing coming off the supply i did not plug in. mostly because my 420w supply 4 prong thing would not fit on the MB properly. it is not 2 yellow and 2 black, but 2 reds, black, and a yellow. i have never used that connector on my old MB. but, to make sure i have the right connector you are speaking of, is it 4 wires that make a square shape or 4 wires the go length-wise and make a rectangle shape? this:


WWWW

or

WW
WW

either way, all fans ran properly.
 
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PC eye said:
Last spring I was asked to debug two boards of the same make and model to see why nothing there came on. When a third board was requested under dealer warranty(different model) the system went right together to see a reliable build still running good at this time.
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Hows that, AM2 boards didnt even come out till about Fall! That board was not even released till October!
 
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newguy5 said:
the cpu 4 wire thing coming off the supply i did not plug in. mostly because my 420w supply 4 prong thing would not fit on the MB properly. but, to make sure i have the right connector you are speaking of, is it 4 wires that make a square shape or 4 wires the go length-wise and make a rectangle shape? this:


WWWW

or

WW
WW

either way, all fans ran properly.
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Its the 4 pin Square connector
 
You need to get your case speaker hooked up so you can get a beep code, it should be with the HD/LCD-Power/LCD-reset pins or close. Look in the manual that came with the board.
 
StrangleHold said:
You need to get your case speaker hooked up so you can get a beep code, it should be with the HD/LCD-Power/LCD-reset pins or close. Look in the manual that came with the board.
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there is an LED pin, but my case didn't have that, and that was the only remaining 2 pins to use around that area. there were other pins nearby, but they were all for usb connections. i'll take a pic when i get home, but the MB user's manual lists nothing off an internal-speaker hook-up. does anyone know anything about that motherboard?

as far as the power cord you pictured in your last post, would the computer really not boot-up if it weren't installed?
 
one thing that may be making a difference is that i bought the components from fry's and the RAM had been opened. they claimed it was not a return item and that someone from shipping had gotten sloppy and put a price tag over the part of the RAM box that covered the bar code written ON the memory, so they had to take the stick out of the box in order to read the UPC written on the RAM (??). it sort of sounded like BS to me, but even moreso now that my computer won't work (and that was the last RAM stick they had).

i think i'm going to put the processor, motherboard, and memory all back in their respective boxes and take them back to fry's and demand they replace each component, as i'm not going to replace one component at a time just to figure this problem out. do you think they will replace everything all at once? i just bought it yesterday.

still though, maybe just plugging in that one power connector to the mobo would fix the issue, although i've never done that on a mobo before. what does that cord supply power to?

fry's had a special for that mobo and that processor for only $90; otherwise, i'd just buy another mobo that had a damn speaker connection.
 
It all depends, I have saw some boards that would boot and run without the 4 pin CPU power pluged in but would shut down under stress and I have saw some that would not boot at all without it, guess it dependes on how the board is wired, either its the aux. or main power to the cpu.
 
StrangleHold said:
It all depends, I have saw some boards that would boot and run without the 4 pin CPU power pluged in but would shut down under stress and I have saw some that would not boot at all without it, guess it dependes on how the board is wired, either its the aux. or main power to the cpu.
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yeah. well i'm just going to go back to frys and get everything replaced and start over. i did hook up the power cord we were talking about and got the same result.
 
Since they claimed they didnt have any more of that Ram make them give you DDR2-800, it will run on that board
 
StrangleHold said:
Since they claimed they didnt have any more of that Ram make them give you DDR2-800, it will run on that board
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good call. i think the problem almost certainly is the RAM anyway. i know how to build a computer, and even though i left that power piece off, i now know it made no difference, so there is really no other possibility left except a component problem. what makes me feel dumb is not finding a place to hook up that internal speaker. anyone have a clue?
 
StrangleHold said:
Could as just Speaker or SP or SPK
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i have a spdifo1 with is defined as spdif out header
a audio1 - front panel audio header
aux_in1 - aux audio input

there are no other audio ins, and all those are not anywhere near the led/power/reset pins, so i don't even know if my wires for the speaker would reach even if the above are correct.
 
newguy5 said:
i have a spdifo1 with is defined as spdif out header
a audio1 - front panel audio header
aux_in1 - aux audio input

there are no other audio ins, and all those are not anywhere near the led/power/reset pins, so i don't even know if my wires for the speaker would reach even if the above are correct.
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do any of those seem like they could be the internal speaker?
 
No, those are for your audio ports if you have them on your case, the case speaker pins shoud be around your hd/lcd-power switch-reset-power/lcd pins
 
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