I like the new iMacs

I am sorry but the myth that macs are overly expensive is no longer a valid myth. A few years ago when they were heavy in PPC based hardware they tended to be a bit pricey, however today the intel based ones are easily comparible for hardware spec/price ratio. I didn't believe it myself then built a Dell and a Mac Pro with identical hardware and the mac Pro was $300 cheaper actually.

the entry level Mac books start at just around $1,000 and you compare them to any other major brand laptop they are easily same spec'd and in the same price range.
 
i am seein my bro on saturday so i will report back how they are,
will be the first time i have ever been on a mac :P

anyone know anything on premiere?
 
tlarkin said:
I am sorry but the myth that macs are overly expensive is no longer a valid myth. A few years ago when they were heavy in PPC based hardware they tended to be a bit pricey, however today the intel based ones are easily comparible for hardware spec/price ratio. I didn't believe it myself then built a Dell and a Mac Pro with identical hardware and the mac Pro was $300 cheaper actually.

the entry level Mac books start at just around $1,000 and you compare them to any other major brand laptop they are easily same spec'd and in the same price range.
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i think people's hang up is with the fact that they're used to seeing 'budget' pc's, while there's really no such thing as a budget mac

they're all top of the line components, which rightfully deserves a premium

but the lack of competition on the hardware level is a bit scary

especially when you consider not everyone NEEDS super fast 3ms ram, and two or four or eight cores
 
well they have the mac mini which i consider a budget mac. I do agree with you though, not a lot of users actually need dual Xeon dual core processors in their desktop. that is a bit of overkill
 
does any1 know if macs use UNIX some guy told me it but i could not believe what programming language do they use
 
firsttimebuilder said:
does any1 know if macs use UNIX some guy told me it but i could not believe what programming language do they use
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OS X is built off free BSD Unix. it has all the core unix directories and files and even parses a lot. So if you know unix you can do a lot of "under the hood" type configurations on OS X. Otherwise Aqua does a pretty good job of masking the fact that it is run on Unix and there are a lot of nice gui front end apps for powerful unix command line tools

There are a few kinds of apps that can be developed in OS X. They have carbon apps and cocoa apps, and there are other things you can use too like java and the like. You can also run Linux apps with Fink commander and x11 installed (developer tools) on your OS X rig. On top of that, a lot of linux apps are ported over to OS X anyways so thats not even needed.
 
thank you, that also reminds me how come a few linux disctros arnt part of this debate... I love linux shell
 
Put it this way. I just got a macbook pro recently from work and I installed windows xp pro on a 12 gig partition on the drive. I hated having my Windows install partition always mount on my OS X side of the laptop. Since it was built off unix I added one simple line in the /etc/fstab directory and it no longer auto mounts at boot up. Actually, I had to create the fstab file since OS X does not natively use it. however since it is built of unix technology it will still parse the file at start up. So i created my own file and made sure that the NTFS partition was set to no automount at boot up. Therefore that partition does not even mount at all and doesn't show up on the desktop. I also configured the NTFS partition as read only (even though macs can not write to local NTFS partitions) so no app would ever try to write to it.

the Finder and Aqua (OS X GUI) hide those directories from the end user so they don't get confused on what the /etc /var /usr /tmp /sbin /bin directories are for. they are accessible from the terminal though and still owned by root so it does take the know how to configure them.
 
from my experience, i LOVE linux

it gives any pc a huge speed boost

unfortunately, i suck at using it, which is why i stick to windows now

it's easier for me to deal with a resource hog o/s than learn a new one... :(

i remember after a few days of using corel back in the day, i FINALLY figured out how to...... install programs :)

a few months ago i tried out mandriva, tho, and i have since lost all linux knowledge

i couldn't even get Gaim 2.0 installed
 
heyman421 said:
from my experience, i LOVE linux

it gives any pc a huge speed boost

unfortunately, i suck at using it, which is why i stick to windows now

it's easier for me to deal with a resource hog o/s than learn a new one... :(

i remember after a few days of using corel back in the day, i FINALLY figured out how to...... install programs :)

a few months ago i tried out mandriva, tho, and i have since lost all linux knowledge

i couldn't even get Gaim 2.0 installed
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Sadly its that technical dogma that keeps linux out of the main stream. I totally understand your frustration though. I know that a lot of linux documentation already assumes you know a lot about linux which is completely frustrating at times when trying to configure something in Linux you have never done before.

Sometimes you really need to explain every step as if it was someone's first time for it to make sense. Otherwise you are always stuck on trial and error.
 
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