Final parts for new gaming/video editing/photoshop machine, please pick it apart!

xonto

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Here is my current part list for a XP(32 bit)/Vista(64 bit) dual boot gaming rig. Here's what I got so far:

MOBO: ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $209.99 This is the motherboard I am pretty set on. My other choice for a board is the EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $249.99
, but I do not think the board is worth the extra money. I don't have any plans to get and faster RAM than PC6400 as an upgrade as it is too expensive, and honestly, 800 is pretty damn fast, I really don't see myself needed anything faster, especially with 3-4 gigs of 800MHz ram.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - I think this processor is simply the most bang for my buck. at $222, it sure beats the $315 E6600 , and I just can't see that extra 2MB of L2 Cache and .27GHz making that much difference (especially when you start overclocking). At least, not $93 worth of difference.

RAM:
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
(x2 for 4GB, or + 1GB) - $349.98 for 4GB, $264.98 for 3GB

VIDEO CARD: I am waiting until March for the Nvidia 8600 Ultra to come out. At $179, that's a pretty affordable SLI setup ($358 total). My only other choice is the EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card, and at $300, I could really only afford 1.

PSU: OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply 100 - at 160 it is pretty steep for a PSU, but I think I can find this one for $105. Regardless, I hear it is a solid PSU, but I am willing to entertain ideas for a cheaper one that will still meet my power needs.

CASE: Antec Performance One P180B Black - $99 (locally) From what I hear it is a solid case with good airflow and heat conductivity. Though it is a mid tower, it still seems roomy enough that I could add watercooling later if I wanted to. Still, this is another area that I am still wiling to take suggestions on, especially because I have never done watercooling and I want to make sure I will be able to if I decide to, maybe once summer hits.

OPTICAL DRIVE: LiteOn SHM-165H6S - Not much to say on this one. $30.99, got some bells and whistles like lightscribe if I want them, otherwise just a standard drive for all my optical needs.

I am not including a HD in this build because I already have a 300GB Seagate drive that I am not using, but for the sake of making it a "complete build" I will tack on $100 for a HD. This will cover a 40GB 10,000RPM drive for those that really need some speed, and that should more than cover a 350+GB 7200RPM HD for everyone else

A nice flat screen LCD(22") you can find them for between $250-300.

Tack on $25-100 for a mouse and keyboard.

TOTAL COSTS:
Minimums (cheapest of the comps for which I have multiple choices listed, 3GB of RAM):
$1291 if you have a spare HD like I do *****MY BUILD*****
$1391 for a "complete" box (Hard drive included)
$1666 for a "complete" Computer set with monitor and keyboard/mouse (Low-end of price Ranges)

Maximums (Most expensive parts, 4GB of RAM):

$1511 - No HD
$1611 - (Hard drive included)
$2011 - High end monitor and peripherals (mouse and keyboard)

Add $30-40 bucks to every build for shipping, 60 if you can not get the case locally.

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Whew. I put a lot of time into writing this as I hope it will be a good baseline for many that would read this post. Please, please respond with all your thoughts and suggestions, especially if you think choices should be changed because of impending price drops that should happen by the time that the 8600 Ultra is out, or if you know of any time-sensitive deals that should be taken advantage of soon, and the other parts can be ordered in mid March after the 8600 Ultra comes out.
 
My votes for the single 8800 GTs 320MB. SLI doesn't benefit all games and there is not a double increase in power. You also save 60 bucks.
 
Does anyone know if the 8600 series is going to do anything to the price of the 8800s? If the 8800s drop a bit when the 8600s come out, that would definitely push me into getting a 8800 GTS. I like the idea of saving a bit and going with one 8800 GTS, because it makes an upgrade in the future more meaningful, and more affordable than replacing two 8600s.
 
I'd take this RAM for the extra $15 for the lower latency and timings.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231087

As for the price of the 8800s, I wouldn't expect the 8600s to drop the price much, if at all since it is a lower powered model that is coming out.

Other notes: I would get that 10,000 RPM drive to help reduce the seek and write times over that 300GB drive that you currently have. And I don't know if you have a particular monitor in mind but here's a few suggestions...:

AOC Monitor 22LVWk Black 22" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers - Retail - $295 on sale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824160005

If you can afford a little bit more:

ViewSonic X Series VX2235WM Black/Silver 22" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 280 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers - Retail - $309 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116059

SAMSUNG 225BW Black 22" 5 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor with Height Adjustments 280 cd/m2 700:1 - Retail - $340
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001083

One thing to keep in mind with monitors is that the Cotrast ratio rating is NOT standardized between companies. Just because one monitor has a 3000:1 rating does not make it better than a 600:1 monitor from another brand. The brightness is standardized, but again, don't take any stock in the contrast rating, unless you are comparing two monitors made by the same company.
 
One thing to keep in mind with monitors is that the Cotrast ratio rating is NOT standardized between companies. Just because one monitor has a 3000:1 rating does not make it better than a 600:1 monitor from another brand. The brightness is standardized, but again, don't take any stock in the contrast rating, unless you are comparing two monitors made by the same company.
This I did not know.
What does make the difference that we should look for then?
 
If you can wait till april Core 2 prices are said to be dropping and the 6430 is going to come out with 4 MB of L2 Cache instead of 2. I also think ATI is releasing the R600 in april and that could drop the prices of Nvidia cards
 
This I did not know.
What does make the difference that we should look for then?

Pretty much it's just a good benchmark within the same brand (that is standardized...). But as far as an actual rating, there is no reference guide or industry standard for anything to be benchmarked against. Overall, there are enough other features to make your choice on a monitor. :)

Here's an example. Take a look at all the monitors on this page, most are between 600 and 800:1, except for the LG that is 3000:1. Now, I know that LG are good, possibly even the best in general out there, but not 4x the color resolution, sorry, just not possible in the same price range.
 
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From what I've read, 4 gig's of ram is actually worse than 3 gig's of ram. I really didnt catch exactly why, but just giving you a heads up. Anyone that knows more about this issue can probably tell you why.
 
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