Internal Hard Drive ?

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n0rtonownzu

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My old computer just broke. I have a newer one, but I was wondering if I could take the old Hard Drive and put it in the new one w/o any data loss? Also how do I know if I have a free hard drive port?
 
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Depending on how old the drive is like an ATA66 ide drive you won't be able to there. But you are most likely running at least an ATA100 model you can setup as a slave to the main drive on the newer system. Most case even many prebuilt systems will have at least one extra 3 1/2" drive bay or room in the hard drive cage for a second drive. You would have to remove a side cover to physically look inside to see how the current is installed and look for a free spot under or above that.

If none is available you could also use a 5 1/4" drive bay adapter for mounting the old drive in a spare bay there. Those go for about $2 a piece. Once you are ready to install the old drive you will have to set the drive's jumper(small plastic cap) found at the rear of the drive casing and set that to the slave(SA or SL) or if needed the cable select(CA or CS) position as stamped in the drive's casing. All of your files should be found intact for immediate copy to the new drive.
 
PC eye said:
Depending on how old the drive is like an ATA66 ide drive you won't be able to there.
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Thats not true, almost all IDE controllers are ATA 33-100 compatible, Belive it or not even (MSI) boards. I would like to know what chipset IDE controller wont run a ATA-66 drive? Show me this!!
 
About 5 to 6 years ago that was the requirement coming out on newer boards that ATA100 was becoming the standard then. The facts are that the newer drives have always been made backward compatible to older boards not the other way around where you can take a new ATA133 drive and run it on an old IBM ATA33 system.
 
The require 80 conductor wire to achieve 66Mbps speeds, but don't require it to work. The only IDE interface that will not work in a standard IDE interface today would be the old XT style IDE. Need proof? Most optical drives run at ATA-33...
 
PC eye said:
I suppose you would also say an ATA33 would too? The ATA66s and 100/133s share one thing in common that the 33s don't. ATA66 requires 80 wire cable to acheive 66MBps.
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Yea it would to!! Your not to up on hardware are you! I have a old 500 mb harddrive that will run on my board, (its not the drive), its the chipset backward compatible to run the IDE channel From ATA 33-100. Hell even a 590 chipset can run the IDE channel in (PIO) mode!! ALL modern chipsets will run the IDE channel from PIO mode to ATA 100.
 
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Yea it would to!! Your not to up on hardware are you! I have a old 500 mb harddrive that will run on my board, (its not the drive), its the chipset backward compatible to run the IDE channel From ATA 33-100. Hell even a 590 chipset can run the IDE channel in (PIO) mode!! ALL modern chipsets will run the IDE channel from PIO mode to ATA 100.
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Does your 500mb drive use an ISA cable? Pre-eide drives were limited to 528mb and 40wire cables.
 
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Forget it:cool: It does not matter to me if you get it or not! And its ATA33, but I still use a 80 wire on it, I got rid of all my 40 wire cables years ago. but it would still run in ATA 33 with a 40 or 80 wire cable. you just need a 80 wire to get to ATA 66 and above! You can even use a 40 wire on a ATA 100 drive but it will run in ATA 33! But a ATA 33 drive or even a PIO drive will run on any modern chipset!

You like MSI boards
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One IDE controllers on the VIA 8237R chipset provides IDE HDD/CD-ROM with ((PIO)), Bus Master and Ultra DMA((133/100/66)) operation modes.

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An IDE controller on the NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 nForce 405 chipset provides IDE HDD/CD-ROM with ((PIO)), Bus Master and Ultra DMA((133/100/66)) operation modes.

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An IDE controller on the nVIDIA nForce 550 Ultra chipset provides IDE HDD/CD-ROM with ((PIO)), Bus Master and Ultra DMA((133/100/66)) operation modes.

Instead of rambling on show me a modern board that doesnt!!
 
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You lose track dont you, he wanted to know if his older drive would work on his newer computer
You told him incorrect that his older drive would not work, and it (Will)!!
 
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If the motherboard is limited to 33 mb/sec. and an ATA100 hard drive is used the maximum transfer rate will be limited by the board to the 33 mb/sec. rate. On the other hand if an ATA33 drive is connected to a board that supports ATA100/133, the drive will be limited to the 33mb/sec rate. When you add that to an ATA66/100/133 drive on the same cable you pull the faster drive down to 33mb/sec. That's why it doesn't work. For rescuing files off the old drive you run it long enough for that and then dump the ATA33. Why do you think cd/dvd drives are generally seen on the secondary not primary channel by smart builders?
 
You just contradicted your self, first you (finally) say that it will work and your right about the transfer rates, thats what I have been sayin for the last 6 posts, then you say (thats why it wont work) You cant even make up your own mind:rolleyes:
 
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