Intel reveals new Penryn details

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The upcoming intel CPU's codenamed Penryn.
Penryn chips are expected to enter production late this year

Here some of Penryn's improvements over conroe

  • A 45nm die shrink of the Core microarchitecture — Penryn will be based on the Core architecture of current Core 2 processors, but will be built using Intel's 45nm high-K process, which Gelsinger reminded us involves a "fundamental restructuring of the transistor," with 20% faster switching and 30% lower power. Like the Core 2, Penryn chips will have two cores onboard and will be employed in dual-chip packages for quad-core products. Each Penryn chip will cram 410 million transistors into a 107mm² die; current Core 2 chips pack 291 million transistors into 143mm².
  • 6MB of L2 cache per chip — Credit larger caches for much of Penryn's increased transistor count. The chips will have 6MB of L2 cache, shared between two cores. Naturally, dual-chip quad-core configurations will have a total of 12MB of L2 cache.
  • SSE4 and "Super Shuffle Engine" — We've already reported on the 50 new instructions of SSE4, and Penryn will support them, as expected. We learned today that Penryn will have the ability to perform 128-bit data shuffle operations in a single cycle. Gelsinger said this fast shuffle capability should make SSE4 much more programmable and more useful for compiled code, because the CPU will quickly handle realigning data as needed for vector execution.
  • A faster divider — Penryn will be faster clock-for-clock than current Core 2 processors, and not just because of larger caches and SSE4. The CPU has a new, faster divider that can process four bits per clock versus the two bits per clock of current Conroe chips. Accordingly, Gelsinger expects twice the divide performance of Core 2 Duo and up to four times the performance for square-root operations.
  • Bus speeds up to 1600MHz — We'll see front-side bus speeds in Penryn derivatives of up to 1.6GHz, depending on the market segment. Gelsinger offered few specifics here, only noting that Xeon server CPUs will have bus speeds of "up to 1600MHz," with no mention of specific bus frequencies for desktop or mobile chips.
  • A new lower power state — Penryn will be able to drop into an additional low-power state when idle, which Intel has designated as the C6 state (or "deep power down capability," if you're into marketing names). This mode turns off CPU clocks, disables caches, and goes to what Gelsinger said is the lowest power state the process technology allows. Waking from this mode takes longer than it does from other power states, as one might expect.
  • Dynamic Acceleration Tech — Penryn will also play with power by introducing a novel dynamic clock speed scaling ability. When one CPU core is busy while the other is idle, thus not requiring much power or producing much heat, Penryn will take advantage. The chip will boost the clock speed of the busy core to a higher-than-stock frequency—while staying within its established thermal envelope.
  • A split-load cache — Gelsinger said this will allow speculative execution across cache line boundaries, but offered little additional detail.
  • Improved virtualization — No details here, although I believe they may have been disclosed before.
  • Clock speeds over 3GHz and bitchin' performance — Intel expects both the desktop and server versions of Penryn to reach clock speeds in excess of 3GHz, and in fact has been testing 3.2GHz versions of desktop and server chips already. Gelsinger said they'd measured a 3.2GHz desktop part at 20% higher gaming performance than the current fastest Conroe. For applications that use SSE4, like media encoding, we can expect to see improvements of over 40%.
    As for the server parts, Gelsinger said a 3.2GHz quad-core Penryn-derived system based on the Caneland platform with a 1600MHz front-side bus was achieving over 45% gains versus today's fastest quad-core Xeon systems in certain apps. The apps he cited were bandwidth and floating-point-intensive ones like Stream, some sub-elements of SPECfp, and HP workloads like computational fluid dynamics.
  • Familiar power envelopes — Dual-core desktop versions of Penryn are slated to have a 65W TDP rating, like most Core 2 Duos today. The quad-core versions will come with 95W and 130W TDPs. The Xeon variants will hit 40, 65, and 80W TDP targets in dual-core form and 50, 80, and 120W in quad-core form. Gelsinger didn't quote any thermal envelopes for mobile CPUs from this family, but there are evidently no plans for a quad-core mobile version of this processor.
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http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12127

So the major improvements are 45nm, SSE4, 1600MHz FSB, clock speed over 3GHz, and 6MB cache (12MB for the quad core)
 
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That is better than Core 2 Duo, yeah, but how much? I wonder if you could OC it to 2Ghz FSB......You could probably OC the speed of the CPU to 4.3 at least.
 
Makes a lot of sense i suppose, although intel wil have to rely on kentsfield to battle it out with AMD's K8L (barcelona core), releasing this "penryn" in Q2 of 2008 coincides almost exactly with AMD's next gen chips, Budapest and Shanghai cores...

Should be a pretty close run match IMO, *eagerly awaits*

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wow that sux. im stuck with an AMD [email protected] ghz. payed 100$ because i couldont find it on newegg, so i bought it from the cheapest place.... it is only worth like 80-85... but i love it :)

i can only imagine the day when my kid looks up at me and says, "daddy, one of the eight cores in my handheld micro-computer isnt working, and i think one of my 4gb sticks is going bad..."
 
i think 4 more years there going to have 32 cores in one processor for sale and when they do i going to buy one straight away(32 cores spuer mutitasking)
 
wonder if they'll ever go back to single core lol??? i think i'll sound dumb when the day something like a 32 core comes out .. it ll just sound dumb.. .. but i heard intel has some 60core on the market for big big servers ... thats wat i heard thou...the guy that told me prob making it up.... man if only i had money .. i'd like 2 buy one.
 
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That is better than Core 2 Duo, yeah, but how much? I wonder if you could OC it to 2Ghz FSB......You could probably OC the speed of the CPU to 4.3 at least.
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That's what I was thinking... if it's as easy to overclock as the current Core 2s... it may not be that long until we see overclocking to 5Ghz...
 
Intel has also released revealed new Nehalem details. The next processor after Penryn is code-named Nehalem.
Nehalem will also be a 45nm part

  • Has roots in the Core microarchitecture — To be precise, Gelsinger stated that the new architecture "leverages" the four-issue-wide, er, core of the Core microarchitecture.
  • An on-die memory controller with P2P interconnects — What the Hector? Yep, Intel admits it's going for an integrated memory controller much like AMD's. Nehalem's memory controller will be designed to interface with DDR3 memory, which should be the standard in the market by the time these CPU products arrive. Intel will provide a version of its memory controller to support buffered DIMMs for server configs, as well. In addition, Nehalem will ditch the front-side bus for a series of point-to-point interconnects, presumably similar to AMD's HyperTransport technology.
  • Intel's own brand of fusion — Not content to ape AMD's basic system architecture, Intel will also emulate AMD's Fusion initiative by moving its integrated graphics core from the north bridge to the CPU socket for "mainstream" client PCs—think Centrino laptops and vPro corporate desktops. We don't yet know whether the graphics core will be integrated directly into the processor die or placed in a multi-chip arrangement like Intel's current quad-core processors are. We also don't know how many CPU cores will potentially coexist with a GPU at once. Gelsinger would only say that graphics will be "in the processor socket."
  • Hyper-Threading is back! — It may or may not be called Hyper-Threading, but Nehalem will have a similar simultaneous multithreading capability. Each processing core on the chip will have two front-ends, much like the Pentium 4 did. That means a quad-core version of Nehalem would be able to execute eight threads in parallel.
  • A multi-level shared cache architecture — I suppose one could say Core 2 Duo has a "multi-level shared cache architecture," but reading between the lines, I believe Gelsinger may have been signaling the potential addition of an L3 cache level which could be shared between cores.
  • Something called "Performance enhanced dynamic power management" — Penryn's dynamic acceleration is impressive in its own right, but Gelsinger said this one would involve "new, undisclosed technologies." We don't yet know what those are.
  • A native 45nm design — Intel claims Nehalem will "fully unlock" the benefits of its 45nm high-K fab process because it's a native 45nm design, not a die-shrink.
  • Scalable configurations — The new architecture can scale from one to eight cores and, correspondingly from one to 16 simultaneous threads (at a peak of two threads per core). Its cache architecture is similarly scalable, allowing Intel to create a large family of products based on this design.
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http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12130

Nehalem is on track for production in 2008.
 
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