AMD Processors - Please Can Someone Explain?

Hello, Ive had lots of computers and built lots too. Anyway, at the min im running an AMD Sempron 2600+ which is running at 1.6GHz.

I want a new computer soon (which may have a Athlon 64 x2 4200 running at 2.2GHz) and im not sure whats going on with this dual core and AMD's naming conventions.

Firstly: Is saying that AMD's 4200+ (2.2GHz) processor equal to an Intel's 4.2GHz processor fair?

Secondly: Dual core is two processors working at once therefore getting twice as much done in a certain period of time. So you could say that two 1GHz processors on the same chip actually is working at 2GHz because "the processor" which is actually two processors is actually working with 2 billion waves per second, not 1 billion.

So, an AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+ (2.2GHz) is actually running at 4.4GHz but they are claiming with their naming conventions that its equivalent to 8.4GHz!

An Intel equivalent of the 4200+, lets say Intel Xeon running at the same clock speed of 2.2GHz, there would be two of them working together so you could say its dual clock speed is 4.4GHz.

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Also, what happens when installing a game? Say you have a 2.2GHz AMD (4200+) and an Intel computer at 4.2Ghz, the game requires 3.2GHz to play (you'll just have to imagine that!) The AMD computer might say "blah blah, not enough processing power, blah blah!". So whats going on? Are the games programmed to allow AMD processors extra leeway?

So, to sum up.
You can buy and Intel and an AMD processor, both at 2.2GHz. But the AMD one acts like an Intels 4.2GHz processor which means that the AMD architecture is far superior! Please can someone explain?
Ant...
 
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Dude.... A Dual core Doesn't run at 4.4ghz if it was only 2.2... It actually runs at 2.2 not combined See because the 2 core dont work on the same Application at one time u cannot combined there Clock speed. It does tho increase Multitasking Capabilities. And today there arn't LARGE numbers of multithreaded games. So It is hard to get that Dual Core CPU to act like a 4.4ghz CPU. Anyways when it says THeoritically 7.2 I dont know if a dual core would beat out a Single core running at 7.2 but Never think of a DUal core as x2 the ghz labbeled. THe GHZ that it is givin is how fast it runns at :)
 
I would like to know that too... At the very beginning when I build my first Computer I thought a Sempron 2300+ was like 2.3Ghz =P
 
Its all about there PR ratings, AMD claims there PR ratings are based on the (original Athlon). So if you have a X2 4200 and have both cores going at top speed. It would take a original Athlon single core at 4.2GHZ to do the same amount of work.
 
Oh, no. I know why, its because AMD reckon that their 4200+ (2.2GHz) is as fast as Intel's 4.2Ghz processor. Thats what its all about.

It does seem to be right, my Sempron 2600+ (1.6GHz) kicks my Celeron 2.2s ass from here to China!

But how can it be better, my Sempron is faster but the clock speed is much lower than the Celeron!

What im asking is? Do you buy a Celeron 1.6GHz or an AMD 2600+ which is also 1.6GHz? The answer seems completely obvious, but am i being naive?

Ant...
 
ITS TRUE!!!! Thanks!

The AMD 64 3300+ Palermo running at 2.0GHz is proven to be as good as:
Intel Pentium D 830 at 3.0GHz!

Look!
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ITS IS ACCURATE!!! AMD 3300+ does equal the power of Intels 3.0Ghz processor even though its clock rate is not as high!!!!

Its true!!!!! Thank-you! AMD kicks ass!
 
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The AMD 64 3300+ Palermo running at 2.0GHz is proven to be as good as:
Intel Pentium D 830 at 3.0GHz!
3300+ is as good as Pentium 4 3.0GHz, but not Pentium D 830

In multitasking and multithreaded applications, Pentium D 830 beats any AMD single core by far

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ITS TRUE!!!! Thanks!
No it is not

It is true only when you are talking about single cores, for example Athlon64 3200+ is on par with non-HT P4 3.2GHz.

But Athlon64 X2 3800+ is like two 3200+ joined together, so probably it will perform on par with Pentium D 3.2GHz or 3.4GHz, but not Pentium D 3.8GHz


Thats true but the 4200 beats it in some benchmarks too plus the 4200 just runs at 2.2ghz and the Pentium D at 3.6ghz just means the Pentium D 960 just sucks:D
But 4200+ is not equal to Pentium D 4.2GHz as some people claim here

Actually, if you overclock Pentium D to 4.2GHz it would completely destroy 4200+ in every benchmark.
 
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But 4200+ is not equal to Pentium D 4.2GHz as some people claim here

Actually, if you overclock Pentium D to 4.2GHz it would completely destroy 4200+ in every benchmark.

Thats true but considering the 4200 is running at 2.2ghz that doesnt say much for the Pendium D 960
 
ITS TRUE!!!! Thanks!

The AMD 64 3300+ Palermo running at 2.0GHz is proven to be as good as:
Intel Pentium D 830 at 3.0GHz!


ITS IS ACCURATE!!! AMD 3300+ does equal the power of Intels 3.0Ghz processor even though its clock rate is not as high!!!!

Its true!!!!! Thank-you! AMD kicks ass!

You cant be more wrong. First, the Pentium D 830 is is a dual-core processor, the A64 is not. Therefor in multi-threaded apps the PD will perform better.

Second, you found one instance where they are equal, look at other benchmarks of the same processors and you will see that they are not actually the same.

Third, everyone has known for years that the A64 series is better then the Pentium 4 series, so why are you just finding this out now?
 
ITS TRUE!!!! Thanks!

The AMD 64 3300+ Palermo running at 2.0GHz is proven to be as good as:
Intel Pentium D 830 at 3.0GHz!

Look!
View attachment 1917

ITS IS ACCURATE!!! AMD 3300+ does equal the power of Intels 3.0Ghz processor even though its clock rate is not as high!!!!

Its true!!!!! Thank-you! AMD kicks ass!

Thats just one benchmark, need more than one to prove anything and second the Athlon 64 has been beating the P4 since it came out (old news)
 
"3300+ is as good as Pentium 4 3.0GHz, but not Pentium D 830"
ha ha, Look at the benchmark test!!!

by the way, someone said, its just one processor which is better than Intels but if you look at the top of the benchmark test there is another one, which is even more embarrassing for Intel since that AMD processor has such a small clock rate compared to it!!!

There are loads of examples!

compare an AMD x2 to an Intels x2, AMD is still seamingly better!

The better brand is completely clear to me now!
Thanks guys...
 
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