general info on my ongoing AMD QuadFX setup

dakaptin

New Member
Sup ppls, Im new to the whole forums thing, so I'd thought i'd start one starting with my new comp. heres the specs, I have ordered half the stuff an already have the case. This is my first build too. hope my experiences here help anyone lookin at goin the same way. will post pics when its finished. (if I can)

Thermaltake kandalf lcs case:

The good: ridiculously awesome, fits everything in it, looks good, good build, LCS is alrite - radiator and it’s placement is great, pump & reservoir is alright and so are their placement, however I recommend ditching the rest an getting better quality if you want the best, especially cpu block (get dtek fuzion). If you want to go towards chilling and won’t be using many 5.25 bays, go for this or the smaller armour, without LCS.

The bad: toooo big to fit anywhere but on the floor, heavy – recommend spending extra to get the full aluminium one.

My views on the case itself is to go all out for it because the chances are that if you buy well, you wont need to buy again ever in the future as it’s the hardware that’s the most important for good/better performance! I don’t have much experience on liquid cooling and know only of what I have read.

PSU: Enermax galaxy 1000W
Yeah, not much to explain here except it has all the plugs you could need, for now and possibly for the future (eg RAM connector).

Mobo: ASUS L1N64-SLi WS
Cause it’s the only board that supports quadFX right now, and I need a computer like, RIGHT NOW!,

The good: Features!!!!!! How many boards can boast the PCI options this board has? And lets not stop there, 7.1 sound, giga ethernet, overeclockability, to name a few. I also have a lot of confidence in ASUS products.

The Bad: The memory speed could have been higher (DDR8500 or sumthin), but I suppose there are higher factors controlling that (I have no idea what they are).

It’s chipset is freakin hot!! (exaggerated a bit there, lets not forget Im liquid cooling here) Needs better cooling generally, and it’s sooo long that I feel less enthusiastic about trying to find something suitable for cooling it (still talkin bout chipset)! I’m not even sure whether it’s worth cooling them to be honest (any suggestions please?)

CPU: two x AMD 64 FX-74
The reason I chose this particular mobo/cpu setup over intel based options included the fact that it’s upgradeable to 8 cores in the future. This could (yes I know it’s only a “could”) have massive Implications for this system’s usable lifespan, especially if multicore programming starts being used to the extent that 4 cores get stretched. It’s fast as balls anyway, and I suppose im an AMD junkie at heart having bought an AMD XP 1600+ for my first “gigahertz” computer. They will be both watered with DTEK fuzion waterblocks eventually.

RAM: two Corsair Dominator twin2X2046 pc6400 c3df packs
I chose PC6400 ram first of all because that’s the motherboards limit. I chose this brand of ram cause its syonymous with quality and performance. The dominator series offers good heatsink cooling as I didn’t want to bother watering any ram. Lastly, but not least of all was because it is very low latency. PS, if anyone has a better suggestion, then im all ears as I didn’t spend too much time researching this.
The good: fast as balls, low latency, good quality

The bad: (hey can I borrow sum money mum??? DAD???? ANYoNE!!!!!!!)

Hard drive: WD raptor 150Gb 10000rpm

I hear it’s the fastest, with Hitachi deskstar 1tb close behind. At $AUD300, it aint cheap, but cost and availability of the deskstar has led me this way. Maybe as an upgrade though… I have no idea on SCSII, RAID, and am sceptical on solid state ATM. My aim would ideally to eventually put Vista on (when it comes out) really fast solid state, then games on 150Gb/1Tb. Ideas anyone?

Regarding Video: Im still deciding however leaning towards ASUS EN8800 ultra, it’s a bummer the mobo doesn’t support Crossfire instead All these different versions are confusing to me I am not looking to water the video unless I SLI and looking at prices/problems, that’s an affirmative HELL NO for at least till the end of the year.

Q: is there a faster asus 8800 ultra version
Or should I get sumthin cheap an wait till the end of the year when more get released?

I am still in a state of confusion over monitor size. Im leaning towards Samsung 226BW but am thinking that this is (like the case) one of those things that really doesn’t need to be upgraded if you buy well, plus given my chosen videocard, might as well make use of it so am thinking maybe go to 27/30” but they soooo much more expensive!!!! Even 24” is!!! (~1000 here in Aust)

DVD: pioneer dual dvd+/-RW SATA (whatever the product code is)

Any suggestioins on what else I can do?
 
Drool worthy.

My input: Get the GTX instead of the Ultra as the Ultra is little more than a overclocked GTX. Save some money and do it yourself.

Monitor size. Bigger = better. It's mostly just preference though.. and budget size of course.

4Gb's of RAM is overkill at the Mo'.. Unless you're running a server or doing video editing of course. 4Gb's would definitely be the future though.

PSU name could be bad. Not sure, get some opinions. :)
 
thanks m8s!, seems like its either of two options for the monitor/video: BIg-BIG or 22"-8800gtx, and that decision will be left for my self controll (whether I can do it or not)
although I am leaning to get a hd2900 instead though if I go the lesser gtx as its cheaper an I suppose can still handle the 22" with all settings maxxed (thats my goal for whichever monitor I get :D)

Thats what I was thinkin bout the PSU too initially, but there seems to be some magazines i've read that like it, will look further into it
 
The 8800gtx is a much better card than the HD 2900xt. It can be more expensive though.. Don't be fooled! :D

Edit: reread your post and i misunderstood whatcha said. Everything looks great! Post some screenies of your monitor if you go BIG..
 
yeah sure,

let us know what bits u misundastood, an ill fix it up. Maybe with some more info too (if I can think of anything).

The hd2900 is about 100-200 cheaper here, though that's a small amount given what I've spent/gonna spend. It's lookin like the GTX is the winner!!

apart from XFX who I know about, who else u reckon is good at the 8800 GTX and which card? Does it really matter?

would it be better buying a pre-overclocked card, or buy one which has good cooling in stock then do the rest myself?

Its easy for me to find where I can get the cheapest/best deal so all I really need to know is which card(s).
 
yeah sure,

let us know what bits u misundastood, an ill fix it up. Maybe with some more info too (if I can think of anything).

The hd2900 is about 100-200 cheaper here, though that's a small amount given what I've spent/gonna spend. It's lookin like the GTX is the winner!!

apart from XFX who I know about, who else u reckon is good at the 8800 GTX and which card? Does it really matter?

would it be better buying a pre-overclocked card, or buy one which has good cooling in stock then do the rest myself?

Its easy for me to find where I can get the cheapest/best deal so all I really need to know is which card(s).

I just thought you meanty the Hd 2900xt was better than the 8800gts. Out here the 1Gb 2900 can be more expensive than a GTX, So i thought you were mistaken in which was better. no big deal. :)

EVGA is also a good brand. They have a Step-up deal where you can trade in a card you bought from them within 90 days and get FULL credit towards a new one. Very useful. But other than special deals and customer service there isn't a very big gap between the card makers.

And I would stay away from Pre-overclocked cards. It's so easy just to do it yourself! ;)
 
Wow, you're right. Enermax makes awesome PSU's. And coming from the GUru of 3d guys that means something.

You're set then, you've got one sweet rig on the way.. Lucky bloke :D
 
update: just ordered

enermax PSU
4Gb corsair RAM (as above)
2 x amd fx-74 CPUs
ASUS L1N64 mobo
WD raptor 150Gb

Total: $3000 (aust)

plus case: $3500

Will post pics hopefully this time next week. (I'm away at work ATM)

WHATS LEFT to get:

video card (up to $800-1000)
Monitor ($470 - samsung 226bw)
2x DTEK Fuzion waterblocks, tubing, etc (about $200)
speakers (up to $500 but unlikely)
sound card (in the distant future) (up to $500)



TOTAL COST ~ $6000

Holy s--T!!! dont you love the tax return???
 
Shit man!

That is One SWEET machine

~Drools~

Where did you buy all your parts from?

Im a Fellow Aussie :D

I definitly Reccommend the 8800GTX, Ive seen it in action, It is Absolutly CRAZY.

oh btw. . .

AUSSIE! AUSSIE! AUSSIE!
 
OI!! OI!! OI!!!


the case and PSU are from www.pccasegear.com.au - so far service has been good - timely and efficent. they seem to stock some of the otherwise hard to find stuff (like the case and PSU), just dont ask them for advice on watercooling (long story)

The rest were bought from www.itsdirect.com.au - they seem to have the best prices, not to mention they also stock some hard to find parts. I had trouble finding the C3DF RAM, and they stock it for the cheapest price in aust i believe. same goes for HDD

I found the only place in aust to get the DTEK fuzion waterlocks was at a place called www.flabbergast.com.au and they have them for $95 each!!!!

In general, what I did/do to find the best place in aust is google the part, specific to australia (eg - "corsair dominator pc6400 c3df"). (adding the word compare can help too here)

Next, look through the results for websites that compare prices, some common ones were www.shopbot.com.au ; www.myshopping.com.au ; au.shopping.com

I found shopbot to be the best.

The catch here is that I didnt get good results and selctions if i went directly to those websites first - i dont know, must be a programming thing.
 
OI!! OI!! OI!!!


the case and PSU are from www.pccasegear.com.au - so far service has been good - timely and efficent. they seem to stock some of the otherwise hard to find stuff (like the case and PSU), just dont ask them for advice on watercooling (long story)

The rest were bought from www.itsdirect.com.au - they seem to have the best prices, not to mention they also stock some hard to find parts. I had trouble finding the C3DF RAM, and they stock it for the cheapest price in aust i believe. same goes for HDD

haha!

OMG ARE YOU FROM THE SUNSHINE COAST TOO!!

Lol? Private message Me Man!

That is going too be ONE KICK ASS Rig.

So Jealous.
 
SUP PPLS,

well i have pics of the case with only the HDD and PSU but i forgot my bloody phone cable in QLD so that'll have to wait till i get back home. My mobo, RAM and CPU should be arriving thursday after next (when I get home) and hopefully by then I would have ordered a video card!!!

here's a question:

whY the hell should I spend $480 on a retail version of vista home premium?

OR rather,

what are the benefits of spending that much versus the $150 (or sumthin) OEM version?

(please note - I will upgrade to phenom CPUs when they come out)
 
I'll also update you all on a little problem I encountered,

the bloody massive and awesome looking PSU was so long that I had to remove the top fan to fit it in (among a bunch of other stuff as well. I want to put it back on but wasnt sure how to go about doing it as i'll have to put it in a different location to where the fittings are

oh yeah, got the 2 D-tek fuzion cpu blocks, drooooooole
gonna use arctice sooling mx-2 TIM
 
here's a question:

whY the hell should I spend $480 on a retail version of vista home premium?

OR rather,

what are the benefits of spending that much versus the $150 (or sumthin) OEM version?

(please note - I will upgrade to phenom CPUs when they come out)


I believe the only difference with the OEM is you dont get Microsoft tech support or something. OEM is definately the way to go:)
 
I think getting two AMD 64 FX-74 is a waste of money, and that will consume a lot of power...........

The intel quad core are cheaper, faster, consume less power, produce less heat and overclocks much better. C2Q Q6600 cost under $300, why would you waste your money on AMD 64 FX-74 ??!!


And did you say that your going to upgrade to 8 cores in the future ??! LOL, but most programs today can't even utilize 4 cores, so you need to wait for a long time to have programs that utilize 8 cores.
 
mate if I was a rational human being right now i'd have spent 1000-1500 on the most average computer I can get (but have xp on it)
 
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