Irony of this forum...

uhm. 3 miles of phone line...please tell me where phone poles are? along the ROAD.
sillypants :P


If you think the telephone lines were designed to go directly from your house to your CO you're wrong. Take a bike ride, follow those cables.
Yes I agree the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. But the line is not straight when the house or the CO are built at different times.
 
The advantage of this forum is it'll run quite happily on older hardware, in fact I think I could have run it on my old Dan PC (400MHz Celeron FTW) and I reckon I could get my friends 233MHz Pent 2 laptop to easily render this page. It also means we don't have to spend ages waiting for it to load and now I'm running Synaptic downloading some new programs and it's not affecting the download of those at all because the little bandwidth required means Synaptic can use the full 7MB and not only use about 5MB which I get on flash-heavy sites for example.
 
A few points...

1) Bandwidth, the simpler the page and the less data throughput it has the less expensive it is bandwidth wise. So, simple is good.

2) Support - when trying to troubleshoot complicated set ups all you get is complicated troubleshooting. Keep it simple, so when something breaks your down time is nil because troubleshooting it takes very little time. This also makes it more secure, less loop holes and configurations to worry about. Simpler is better in many many ways.

3) Cable is typically faster than DSL. DSL runs over existing phone lines (copper) to a CO which may be off in some strange area, and like mentioned before it doesn't travel in a straight line. Cable is set on nodes, where typically one cable line runs down a street, your actual travel distance (ping) is probably a lot lower because of the less travel distance. Plus a lot of cable companies will run fiber or have fiber backbones. While this is also true with some DSL, but not all. The phone infrastructure is a lot older, and in some places very old compared to the newer cable lines that have been ran.
 
Anybody else noticed how most people on this forum have computers capable of running so much yet we stick to a forum based predominantly on text?
Who else thinks this is slightly ironic? :P

What about when people come here for help when their internet is running slow? Or people who want help with older computers? Just because a lot of us have high-end systems doesn't mean everyone does. :P :rolleyes:
 
A few points...

1) Bandwidth, the simpler the page and the less data throughput it has the less expensive it is bandwidth wise. So, simple is good.

2) Support - when trying to troubleshoot complicated set ups all you get is complicated troubleshooting. Keep it simple, so when something breaks your down time is nil because troubleshooting it takes very little time. This also makes it more secure, less loop holes and configurations to worry about. Simpler is better in many many ways.

3) Cable is typically faster than DSL. DSL runs over existing phone lines (copper) to a CO which may be off in some strange area, and like mentioned before it doesn't travel in a straight line. Cable is set on nodes, where typically one cable line runs down a street, your actual travel distance (ping) is probably a lot lower because of the less travel distance. Plus a lot of cable companies will run fiber or have fiber backbones. While this is also true with some DSL, but not all. The phone infrastructure is a lot older, and in some places very old compared to the newer cable lines that have been ran.
But with cable when the satellite is further away you get a lot more ping and same when everyone is on the internet in your neighborhood.

Wait, which type of internet service goes to a hub, then to a satellite?
 
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