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luckystrike

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guys im building a new pc and it seems the sata cable or hard disk is the right way to go. but i still have my 3 year old ide hard disk which i would like to use plus the new sata hd for more space., can i still connect it thru my new mainboard or it will depend on which mobo i will buy?
 
No problem. Boards still see one Pata cable for optical drives primarily while still seeing the same old ide channel. There are still some newer boards seeing two ide channels as well.

Sata drives use a totally different much thinner cable then the familiar ide flat ribbon type you are familiar with. The first image here is a typical power connector.

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The second is the data cable with an angle type end connector seen at the drive end of the cable itself.

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The amount of sata type drives you would intend to use overall might have an effect on the make and model board selected. Since the case here was built plans to run strictly sata drives saw a board with 6 sata ports over those often seeing only 4.
 
luckystrike said:
guys im building a new pc and it seems the sata cable or hard disk is the right way to go. but i still have my 3 year old ide hard disk which i would like to use plus the new sata hd for more space., can i still connect it thru my new mainboard or it will depend on which mobo i will buy?
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Yes you can still use both.
 
You dont set Sata drives to master or slave. Just plug it into your Sata port 0 or 1 depending on how the board marks them. If your still going to use the IDE as your OS drive just go into the bios and set the IDE as the boot drive. After you boot up go into Disk Management and Partition and format the new drive.
 
One thing to know when going to install Windows on the machine. If you eventually decide to see Windows installed onto a sata drive and want that to be the host and boot drive first unplug any ide hard drives since the master boot record(mbr) as well as the boot files will be placed on that and not the intended sata drive.

If you later decide to dual boot two versions of Windows you also want two of the same type of drive to avoid problems if you don't split a drive into two primaries. With 2 ide models and 2 sata drives seeing 3 versions of Windows on the last build(XP Home/Pro and Vista) and up until lately Vista on an ide and XP on one of two sata models I know that one well.

Once you see the ide drive in plan on a fresh start preferably on a new fresh primary to see a good clean install with all of the hardware and software drivers for the new board(totally different chipset) as well as others things like video, sound, etc. to see working results. That will also see any leftovers like now useless temp folders and old installation logs cleaned up.
 
PC eye said:
One thing to know when going to install Windows on the machine. If you eventually decide to see Windows installed onto a sata drive and want that to be the host and boot drive first unplug any ide hard drives since the master boot record(mbr) as well as the boot files will be placed on that and not the intended sata drive.

If you later decide to dual boot two versions of Windows you also want two of the same type of drive to avoid problems if you don't split a drive into two primaries. With 2 ide models and 2 sata drives seeing 3 versions of Windows on the last build(XP Home/Pro and Vista) and up until lately Vista on an ide and XP on one of two sata models I know that one well.

Once you see the ide drive in plan on a fresh start preferably on a new fresh primary to see a good clean install with all of the hardware and software drivers for the new board(totally different chipset) as well as others things like video, sound, etc. to see working results. That will also see any leftovers like now useless temp folders and old installation logs cleaned up.
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implanning to use my new sata hd to be my new windows os and just use my old ide as my data hard disk. do i have to clean my old ide of any windows component?
 
luckystrike said:
implanning to use my new sata hd to be my new windows os and just use my old ide as my data hard disk. do i have to clean my old ide of any windows component?
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after you installed the sata go into bios and choose that as the primary boot device or choose the cd drive as primary then your sata hd as secondary. your choice. also it's best not to have your pata hd in the bios boot order

as for the pata drive you still have to configure the jumpers and place them in the correct order on the ide. ie master on the far end, slave in the middle, and the blue connector connected to the mobo. once installed go to bios and remove this drive from the boot order
 
With plans to use the sata drive for Windows you would then leave the ide drive unplugged since the Windows installer looks for the first drive on the system. The sata drive would be seen as D not C if the ide drive is left plugged in while installing Windows since the essentials would be placed on the ide drive and would also add the old installation in as a boot option.

That wouldn't be good since that copy of Windows was for the old system. Once Windows is up and running on the sata drive you can plug the ide model in and recovery anything you want off of it in order to see it wiped clean for simply storage use afterwards. You can right click on the drive itself or use the Disk Management tool to right click on the listing there to see it reformatted.

In most boot order sections in the bios you select the "hard drives" option there and press the enter to see another screen come up. A small paragraph on the right side of that screen will indicate which keys are used to move the drive in the list to the top like the + and - keys on the numpad. Once at the top select the exit and save option or press the F10 when exiting the bios in order to see put into effect. The ide drive will still be seen there while the sata goes to the top for being set as the default boot drive.
 
thank you, which one is easier to do the ide being the windows os with sata being the storage drive or the other way around?
 
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By default the Windows installer will look for any ide drive first. If you install Windows on a sata drive while an ide drive is present that copy of Windows becomes a D instead C simply due to the boot files and information placed on the ide.

The question now is which is larger to make the better storage device? Most would use the smaller drive for the OS and programs to be installed while seeing files stored on the larger capacity model. For easy installation with both types present the ide drive takes the lead being drive #0 to the Windows installer while any sata becomes drive #1.

For a stand alone installation on the sata drive the ide model would first be unplugged. That isn't needed when installing on the ide drive since the ide controller overrides sata by default. The sata drive is most likely a larger model then the older ide drive? Makes the choices easier if that's the case.
 
PC eye said:
By default the Windows installer will look for any ide drive first. If you install Windows on a sata drive while an ide drive is present that copy of Windows becomes a D instead C simply due to the boot files and information placed on the ide.

The question now is which is larger to make the better storage device? Most would use the smaller drive for the OS and programs to be installed while seeing files stored on the larger capacity model. For easy installation with both types present the ide drive takes the lead being drive #0 to the Windows installer while any sata becomes drive #1.

For a stand alone installation on the sata drive the ide model would first be unplugged. That isn't needed when installing on the ide drive since the ide controller overrides sata by default. The sata drive is most likely a larger model then the older ide drive? Makes the choices easier if that's the case.
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thank you very much ill just use mi ide as my os drive so i dont need to unplug it before loading windows ill just reformat it ill just ask question if ill be doing it
once again thank you
 
idk if it makes a difference, proabaly better if u use the sata...becuas eit is supposedly faster.
 
Vizy93 said:
idk if it makes a difference, proabaly better if u use the sata...becuas eit is supposedly faster.
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Unless you get into a Raptor drive sata isn't seen any faster due to the hardware limitations even while the bus is faster. You are still confined to the ide standards for the most part. The larger of the two drives would be the best for storage purposes.

Having run both XP and Vista on both types of drives the installation on the 25gb ide drive now removed saw both versions load as fast as with the 500gb sata models. All three run at 7,200rpm.
 
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