$325 BASIC Computer

you could get better performance with an AMD Sempron 140 2.7ghz with possible unloackable 2nd core. A MircroATX board is cheaper too.
 
first, the power supply is in the case, second, i want a small form factor, third, i do have a 500gb barracuda in the list, fourth, 4gb of ram is good enough for me and the motherboard does not allow more, 5th, i refuse to use amd for a small form factor pc
 
techexpert1 said:
first, the power supply is in the case, second, i want a small form factor, third, i do have a 500gb barracuda in the list, fourth, 4gb of ram is good enough for me and the motherboard does not allow more, 5th, i refuse to use amd for a small form factor pc
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I'm sorry, I didn't notice it said /w power supply. Though I wouldn't trust using that one.
The barricuda I listed is nearly half the price of yours, that's why I listed it.

You don't need to be so hostile. You posted your build and you asked us what we thought of it. What we posted were just suggestions. Don't act like we are telling you what to do.
 
I wouldn't worry about the included PSU. It may be low quality and provide a lower amount of juice, but pretty much anything would be alright with your system. It's not like its even a $500-600 gaming rig. As for the greater likelihood of the PSU going bad due to its low quality, I wouldn't worry about that either. For a $325 basic build, I would almost consider it inefficient and unlogical to get a better one. I assume it won't be the end of the world if something happens and you're without the pc for a few days while you replace the psu.

That said, my suggestions are to: stay away from Atom like Daisy said and go with an AMD system. Unsure why you seem so opposed to an AMD setup for this build (if anything, this would be a GREAT scenario to choose AMD), but obviously its your call. Good luck.
 
I don't understand the hate on AMD? You'd get more power for roughly the same price...? With a 785G board it would even function well as an HTPC. The atom? Not so much. The atom setup will be less reliable (mobile platform), less powerful, and will be "out of date" a lot sooner due to the lack of raw cpu power, gpgpu capabilities, and upgrade options.

Agreed on the drive though, the 7200.11 ones do have a high failure rate. And the one linked was a recert, and had $7+ shipping. No thanks.

As for the PSU, the one that comes with that case is indeed most likely crap, but it'd be hard to find a better one for the same price...
 
I'd go with Western Digital or Samsung. Seagate are kind of hit or miss these days, as is Hitachi. Keep in mind though, any hard drive can and will fail eventually. Make sure to back up your stuff now and then.
 
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hey... 7200.11 barracudas have a large faliure rate, and i will not switch to amd.
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Uh, hm, where is your proof that Barricudas "have a large failure rate"? I'd like to see this, on an accredited site, not just Newegg bogus reviews. And peeps in this forum can keep hating on Hitachi's, with no proof of degredation. Haha I laugh that some people in this world pay more for the same quality, because some website told them that one HDD or processor is better than the other. Like WD or Intel doesn't pay them...Hitachi has reached milestones in the production of HDD's, that other companies, such as WD, would not have if Hitachi wouldn't have developed that acquired technology, such as the terabyte HDD's, and the 7200 3 terabyte HDD's.
 
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Demilich said:
Uh, hm, where is your proof that Barricudas "have a large failure rate"? I'd like to see this, on an accredited site, not just Newegg bogus reviews. And peeps in this forum can keep hating on Hitachi's, with no proof of degredation. Haha I laugh that some people in this world pay more for the same quality, because some website told them that one HDD or processor is better than the other. Like WD or Intel doesn't pay them...Hitachi has reached milestones in the production of HDD's, that other companies, such as WD, would not have if Hitachi wouldn't have developed that acquired technology, such as the terabyte HDD's, and the 7200 3 terabyte HDD's.
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Well, the reason the drives I link were recertified was because there was a known issue with 7200.11, but the recertified doesn't mean it was used, it means it was taken off shelf, inspected and put back up at a lower price. yeah some still fail, but not nearly as much as they did when they were released.

And...hitachi....every laptop HDD I've ever seen go bad is hitachi. And that's a lot. I've never had any other brand of hard drive fail on me. So I don't like them from personal experience.
 
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Well, the reason the drives I link were recertified was because there was a known issue with 7200.11, but the recertified doesn't mean it was used, it means it was taken off shelf, inspected and put back up at a lower price. yeah some still fail, but not nearly as much as they did when they were released.

And...hitachi....every laptop HDD I've ever seen go bad is hitachi. And that's a lot. I've never had any other brand of hard drive fail on me. So I don't like them from personal experience.
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Your view is understandable from a personal standpoint. However, it seems that most people in this forum bias against particular hard drives because: a moderator told them so; or an article in a blog that makes false claims against the manufaturer, thus hurting their reputation. Interesting how Hitachi is still one of the biggest HDD manufacturers in the world, despite their "high failure rate". I've had a WD go out, but never a Hitachi, but that doesn't make me bias against the WD.
 
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Regardless of their reliability, hitachi drives are slow compared to wd black or samsung f3 drives, and are a decent way behind 7200.12's.

7200.11's had an issue or six with their firmware. They have a habit of bricking themselves. New firmware updates have helped, but haven't really fixed it.
 
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Regardless of their reliability, hitachi drives are slow compared to wd black or samsung f3 drives, and are a decent way behind 7200.12's.

7200.11's had an issue or six with their firmware. They have a habit of bricking themselves. New firmware updates have helped, but haven't really fixed it.
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Tell me what is slower on the Hitachi in this comparison?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...36-294^22-136-294-TS,22-145-434^22-145-434-TS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...45-434^22-145-434-TS,22-148-609^22-148-609-TS

In fact, that Hitachi has the same throughput as the WD black, well, one of them anways.

There are more on Newegg of the TB HDD that are the same speed and throughput between the WD black, and the Hitachi Deskstar, if that is what you're talking about. I'm trying to understand where you're coming from on this.
 
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