3500 - 4000

Pancakes

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Whats the difference between a Amd athlon 3500 and a 3800
and the amd athlon 4000?

Which one is a venice?
 
Wikipedia has a great set of articals with the different AMD processors, differences in models, etc...


Each processor usally has at least 2 models of it(well, for each socket) I know for the 4000, there was the Clawhammer and the San Diego. Again, just look on wikipedia or google, I'm sure there's more than enough info out there...
 
Da mastablasta!

Here ya go:

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JAN :D
 
AMD Athlon™ 64 3800+ with HyperTransport Technology

Specifications

Frequency 2.4 GHz

Bus Frequency 2000 MHz

Level 1 Cache 128 KB

Level 2 Cache 512 KB Advanced Transfer

Special Features Enhanced Virus Protection
SSE2
Cool'n'Quiet™
3DNow!

AMD Athlon™ 64 4000+ with HyperTransport Technology

Specifications

Frequency 2.4 GHz

Bus Frequency 2000 MHz

Level 1 Cache 128 KB

Level 2 Cache 1 MB Advanced Transfer

Special Features 3DNow!
SSE2
Cool'n'Quiet™

Special Features Enhanced Virus Protection
SSE2
Cool'n'Quiet™
3DNow!


Which ones are those?
 
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Dude... Jan just posted basically ever freakin Athlon ever made...can you not read it or something?

Ugh... The 3800's a Venice, 4000's a Clawhammer.
 
Ok theres also a friggen 4000+ thats a san diego 12th line down... dont be an ass for no reason.

theres also two 3800s ones e3 the others e6, i dont know what that means.
 
Pancakes said:
Ok theres also a friggen 4000+ thats a san diego 12th line down... dont be an ass for no reason.

theres also two 3800s ones e3 the others e6, i dont know what that means.

E6 in newer
 
I get like that because you post basically everything BUT the core. If you took the time to compare the two 4000's, you'd see one has SSE3, one doesn't. One has a 90nm die, the other a 130nm. And if you'd read my previous post, you'd see I told you the 4000 was a Clawhammer. Though, I was incorrect, I the 3800 is the Newcastle(minus SSE3) I don't know my cores right off the top of my head...
 
Pancakes said:
Does anyone know what the ones i posted before are?...
4000-sandiego or clawhammer?
3800 e3 or e6?
could you be like more specific

san diego and clawhammer are cpu cores, san diego is more known and in my opinion better, so if you are getting a 4000+ get a san diego core based

e3 and e6 are core steppings (revision), e6 is newer, if you are buying a 3800+ single core cpu get a venice core based cpu
 
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So basically both of them are bad lol...
Right now i have a 3400+ clawhammer
L1-64 +64
L2- 1 gig
socket 754
out of mine, the 4000+ clawhammer and the 3800 newcastle which is the best and which is the worst?
 
filip-matijevic said:
could you be like more specific

san diego and clawhammer are cpu cores, san diego is more known and in my opinion better, so if you are getting a 4000+ get a san diego core based

e3 and e6 are core steppings (revision), e6 is newer, if you are buying a 3800+ single core cpu get a venice core based cpu

No i can't go and buy them, i was wondering which ones the ones alienware were offering were.
 
Pancakes said:
the 4000+ clawhammer and the 3800 newcastle which is the best and which is the worst?
clawhammer is a bit better and thats becouse it has 1024KB L2 cache and newcastle has 512KB, they re both running at same frequency 2.4 GHz
 
Which is more important?
having a processor with 2.4 instead of 2.2
or having a processor with L2 cache of 1024 instead of 512?
 
Pancakes said:
Which is more important?
having a processor with 2.4 instead of 2.2
or having a processor with L2 cache of 1024 instead of 512?
listen, my Duron applebred has only 64KB of L2 cache, overclocked to 2.25Ghz from 1.8GHz it gets higher score than Athlon XP 3200+ with 512KB of L2 cache (2.2Ghz) in PCMark05.

so i would say get a cpu with 512KB of L2 cache cuz the extra 512KB isnt worth it IMO,

if u have a 2.2GHz proccesor you can easily OC it to 2.4GHz so....

EDIT: i dont know about your CPU but Venice can be Oc'ed to 2.6GHz with stock cooling
 
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Heya

In general, it could be said that for an AMD processor, the extra MHZ will serve you better than an extra 512KB of cache. I have an Athlon 3000+ @ 2.7Ghz with 512KB of cache and it performs way better than a 4000+ that has 1MB cache but runs at a lower frequency.

JAN :D
 
CORRECTION the clawhammer is worse because 1. it runs hotter (130nm) and 2. it runs at 2.2ghz not 2.4ghz, i OWNED A 3400+ i would know! and yes, 200mhz is a better performance increase than adding 512kb!
 
fade2green514 said:
CORRECTION the clawhammer is worse because 1. it runs hotter (130nm) and 2. it runs at 2.2ghz not 2.4ghz, i OWNED A 3400+ i would know! and yes, 200mhz is a better performance increase than adding 512kb!
hmmm.... CORRECTION, he did not say clawhammer 3400+, read the posts before you make such a big mistake, this is what he actually said:

and btw, they are both 130nm, jeez

Pancakes said:
the 4000+ clawhammer and the 3800 newcastle which is the best and which is the worst?
please, dont make such stupid mistakes again
 
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i dont get it, my 4000+ is 400MHz slower then the FX-57, same core, only diffrence is the speed... yet im running 1.4V and the 57 is at 1.3V???
 
Ku-sama said:
i dont get it, my 4000+ is 400MHz slower then the FX-57, same core, only diffrence is the speed... yet im running 1.4V and the 57 is at 1.3V???
only difference i can see is that the multiplier is higher on FX-57 (2800MHz as a result) and 1.3V, that doesnt make sence,

did u try to OC your cpu to 2.8GHz?
 
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