A bunch of questions.

kobaj

kobaj

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Ok,
1.What is the smalles way to store a song.
2.With that way of storing, will I nead a special program to open them.
3.Will it affect the goodness(you know what I mean) of the song.
4.How many can I save to a floppy 1.44mb.
5.To a CD-R 700mb.
Why this all matters.
6.Is there a cheap easy way to connect headphones to listen to the music on the floppy.
7.to the cd player(those odd sound output connections)
More or less I am tring to make a cd-player but it would be cool if I could do it with a floppy.

EDIT:8.Isthere way to connect the cd/floppy to the usb//other port so I can burn to floppy without removing it just plugging in a cable and then listen to the song just by removing the cord.

EDIT2:Yes I need skip/forword/ect.
 
I can't answer any of it very good, but I THINK I'm not too far off with those:
1. Ogg.
2. I've had problems opening them with WMP 9, needing filters and stuff, but old mplayer2 could supposedly open them.
3. I think ogg is as good as mp3.
4. 0.5 :P

You would have problems fitting even one song on a floppy, and if you do, it'll be crappy quality.

And don't take my answers for truth, I've been wrong before. :P
 
Quality thats the word I was looking for. Well thansk so far I guess I will be making a cd player.
 
kobaj said:
Ok,
1.What is the smalles way to store a song.
2.With that way of storing, will I nead a special program to open them.
3.Will it affect the goodness(you know what I mean) of the song.
4.How many can I save to a floppy 1.44mb.
5.To a CD-R 700mb.
Why this all matters.
6.Is there a cheap easy way to connect headphones to listen to the music on the floppy.
7.to the cd player(those odd sound output connections)
More or less I am tring to make a cd-player but it would be cool if I could do it with a floppy.

EDIT:8.Isthere way to connect the cd/floppy to the usb//other port so I can burn to floppy without removing it just plugging in a cable and then listen to the song just by removing the cord.

EDIT2:Yes I need skip/forword/ect.
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1. The smallest way to store a song is the Real Media Format, .rm, .ram etc..
2. You will need the Real Player to play them, but many other programs right now support opening this format
3. Yes, the quality of this format is not that great as in Mp3's and other formats, usually the .wav format is the best and then comes the Mp3, then the wma and then the Real Media format, quality gets poorer as you go down in size and up in compression
4. The average size of a real media song is around 500k, so you won't be able to save more than 2 or 3 songs max to a floppy
5. You can calculate this :)
6. Well, I don't think there is a way to connect headphones to a floppy if any
7. Connecting headphones to any CD player is possible of course and cheap


Why don't you consider an Mp3 Player ????
 
Oh I just found an old 15 gig hard drive is there a way to make this into a mp3 player. OH and if it matters all the cd drives ect I will be using are from a laptop. But I do have some cd drives for a pc.
 
I don't think you can convert a hard disk to an Mp3 player, this will need power, data cable, etc which you won't be able to provide while on the ride, plus, you won't be able to run a player without windows.

The fact of the Mp3 players and similar devices is that they have a very small microprocessor and a ROM chip which contains the player while the orders you give to the microprocessor execute the player and runs the Mp3s stored on wherever storage area, this can't be done using a hard disk unless you equip it with similar things :)
 
Hmm...thinks of way to mod backpack to accept all this stuff. Well my backpack probibly wouldnt hold it all but, what about the cd player.
 
I think if you equip the CD player with all this, yes you can turn it to an Mp3 player, but you will need a lot of work :)
 
my cd player reads mp3s. it will be difficult to make a cd player from scratch with this function though, especially in your opening questions you seem to have basic knowledge of things like compression and old technology such as floppy drives.
 
Oh tha floppy thing was for fun. I am not nessisarily saying for my cd player to play mp3 just for it to play my songs. Thats why asked about sifferent formats.
 
In my opinion, for best sound quality to compression ratio, go MP3. Supposedly WMA is "just as good" at half the bitrate, but I accidentally ruined an entire collection of songs by converting my MP3's and deleting the originals. WMA format SUCKS, and OGG is usually not recognized by as many devices even though it's a good format. MP3 is compatible with everything, sounds good, and you can easily put over 200 songs on a CD with it. You can get a really cheap CD player with "MP3 CD" compatibility, like $20 for some. Making your own is gonna take a lot of work, is probably expensive and pretty risky. If you got a CD burner (some cost about $30 or less nowadays), you can burn a $0.01 CD and pop it in your player. That is by far the cheapest way to listen to your music. Also, I don't know what you mean by "odd connectors" for audio, but if you're talking about hooking up your player to speakers (there's a headphone jack in all CD players), you can buy an FM transmitter that hooks into the headphone jack and plays your songs off the player to your car or a stereo system. They're cheap too ($20, $30 for an iRock which is the most popular).

The funny thing is, out of everything you want to build (not buy), using a hard drive would be easiest. If you go to a flea market or ebay and find the shell of a hard drive player (without a hard drive, or if it's "dead" because of the original hard drive), just put yours in, but I'm pretty sure you're gonna have to format the drive. Actually if you google or any other search, you can find guides to installing hard drives into old players. As long as they fit they're usually fine. Hope I'm helping.
 
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Ya you helped I meant something elts but hey. After asking another forum they showed me a cheap guide. I will show you once I am done.
 
umm dude just make or get a old laptop ,that way all the "MODING" is already done and it will fit in your backpack quite well. or just get a small (512-1gig) mp3 player, even walmart has em for under 80$
 
Dude you should check out Http://www.hackaday.com. Although I think you should just buy an mp3 player. I think you would end up spending more money depending on how you build the thing than it would cost just to go out and buy one. But it would be cool if you could build an mp3 player from scratch. If you do decide to build it post some pics.
 
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