Adding PATA to mother board

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bj2010

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hi,
I have a SATA (250 GB) attched to mother board, I want to attach a PATA(500 GB) to the same mother board. I bought the adaptor for PATA, but when
I plug it to mother board, the computer does not read any drive and won't start and only shows the CD drive. I put the SATA does not have any jumper and I put the PATA to slave. shouldn't atleast read the SATA?
thanks
 
The PATA drive should be set to master or cable select, not slave. Slave/master only applies to drives on the same channel, so you would only need to set a drive to slave if you had two PATA drives on one cable.
 
so I should get from one master channel to SAtA, and one master channel to PATA and
put PATA on cable select? how the computer recognize from which hard drive open windows?
thanks
 
I dont think it matters about the slave master and such when there is only one drive that is not the boot drive/oon its own ide channel, i swear i've done it before without a prob, but it has been a while since i needed to do this, but none the less it's a good place to start.
Just leave the sata drive alone and set the jumper on the pata to master/cable select.

what i am more concerned about is the adpater you bought, How are you conecting the drive? are you using the port on the motherboard or some kind of add on card like a pci to ide adapter or converter?
 
bj2010 said:
so I should get from one master channel to SAtA, and one master channel to PATA and
put PATA on cable select? how the computer recognize from which hard drive open windows?
thanks
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There is no "master channel". Master/slave refers to the priority HDDs receive when their on the same channel. Since SATA only supports one drive per channel, any SATA drive is technically the "master".

As for the boot priority, you can change that in the BIOS, but it's probably going to boot from the SATA first by default anyway.

innercx said:
I dont think it matters about the slave master and such when there is only one drive that is not the boot drive/oon its own ide channel, i swear i've done it before without a prob, but it has been a while since i needed to do this, but none the less it's a good place to start.
Just leave the sata drive alone and set the jumper on the pata to master/cable select.

what i am more concerned about is the adpater you bought, How are you conecting the drive? are you using the port on the motherboard or some kind of add on card like a pci to ide adapter or converter?
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No offense, but I'm pretty sure that it does matter. If you only have one PATA drive on a channel, then it shouldn't be set on slave.

I'd be interested in knowing exactly what sort of adapter you got too. That could potentially be the source of the problem as well.
 
PohTayToez said:
There is no "master channel". Master/slave refers to the priority HDDs receive when their on the same channel. Since SATA only supports one drive per channel, any SATA drive is technically the "master".

As for the boot priority, you can change that in the BIOS, but it's probably going to boot from the SATA first by default anyway.



No offense, but I'm pretty sure that it does matter. If you only have one PATA drive on a channel, then it shouldn't be set on slave.

I'd be interested in knowing exactly what sort of adapter you got too. That could potentially be the source of the problem as well.
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Mate not that i took offence but that is not right, it does not matter with one drive, to prove what i just said i have just taken my hard drive out, put on only one pata drive changed the jumper on the drive to set as a slave and my computer is fine it booted into windows and i am now typing this using my computer with one pata drive set up as a slave, only thing that happened is windows installed the HD again, no problem at all

This makes sense to me if you only have one drive on the ide channel, if you have two i would imagine it is a different story but with one it makes more sense.
I can imagine that with much older computers this may have been more problematic.
 
I just tested with two drives set to slave btw and it wouldnt get past the asus express gate screen, but that was mainly just to satisfy my curiosity about what i said above about two drives.
 
I'm sure I've encountered it before, but you're probably right about it only being a thing with certain boards.
 
innercx said:
I dont think it matters about the slave master and such when there is only one drive that is not the boot drive/oon its own ide channel, i swear i've done it before without a prob, but it has been a while since i needed to do this, but none the less it's a good place to start.
Just leave the sata drive alone and set the jumper on the pata to master/cable select.

what i am more concerned about is the adpater you bought, How are you conecting the drive? are you using the port on the motherboard or some kind of add on card like a pci to ide adapter or converter?
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my adapter connect to back of PATA HD, it has a 40 pins connection, four pins power to the adapter.(IDE tO SATA adapter) do I have to connect another power directly to PATA?
 
it is a small card connects to back of PATA it has one 40 pins IDE port for ATAPI devices ,4 pins power connect cable, it is written IDE to SATA adapter.
do I have to connect another power to PATA directly?
thanks
 
it is a small card connects to back of PATA it has one 40 pins IDE port for ATAPI devices ,4 pins power connect cable, it is written IDE to SATA adapter.
do I have to connect another power to PATA directly?
thanks
 
do you have link with a picture, i think i know what you mean but i am not sure, you will need power into both hard drives, as in you will need one power cable in each drive.
For the pata drive it will be a 4 pin connector and the sata will prob be 15 pin connector
 
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SATA drive is ok. it has its own power connection, what I meant was there is a 4 pins
power connection to card conventor,do I need to connect power to PATA too?
I took pictures but don't know how to load it to this site.
 
innercx said:
do you have link with a picture, i think i know what you mean but i am not sure, you will need power into both hard drives, as in you will need one power cable in each drive.
For the pata drive it will be a 4 pin connector and the sata will prob be 15 pin connector
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160]do you have link with a picture, i think i know what you mean but i am not sure, you will need power into both hard drives, as in you will need one power cable in each drive.
For the pata drive it will be a 4 pin connector and the sata will prob be 15 pin connector[/QUOTE] the adapter is something like this


http://www.sfcable.com/1807-SF-35 ..._source=nextag
 
I'm not sure of this because it may be the website with bad english but another website i found says the same it appears to state clearly that you need to plug it into the mother board and then it will converter the ide on a mother board to sata, not a drive to sata.

I have seen a few pictures on this and after further reseacrh and your adapter is like the one below which connects two power adapters, one 4 pin molex to the pata drive and the converter that came with it.
Refer to the manaul before you do this as i would have thought that you put the power cable in the pata hard drive, plug the IDE to SATA coverter in and then connect it to the mobo with a sata cable, seems strange to connect two power adapters to one hard drive, but there may be something i'm missing.


http://satawholesale.com/sata_converters.html


Just out of interest what motherboard do you have?

I bought my computer last year and it has am3, ddr3 and stuff and it still has an IDE port on it.
 
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Yep, this is definitely an adapter that takes a mobo IDE port and lets you run a SATA drive on it, not vice-versa like you're trying to do.

I'm pretty sure the 4 pin to molex adapter is for powering the adapter board itself.
 
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