ripken2004
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ya right, as far as i know there are no 4ms out for any inch
alienware = ripoff
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Greg J. said:
First off, 16ms is not terrible. 16 MS is equal to approximately 60 fps. I say around the 60-100 area is when you can't even notice the difference. Plus it is a 20 inch screen, please, find a 20 inch screen with that response time.
Next, it's only 24 bit because the sound blaster audidy zs is 24 bit. Even the Audigy 4 pro is only 24 bit.
Finally, I bet somewhere you could find a benchmark could prove their statistics right. Anyways, 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
I am in no way supporting the immence costs of Alienware, I was just pointing out errors in your 'analysis' of Alienware.
Greg J.
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16 ms is okay. Yes, it is 24 bit sound.....but I thought Alienware could do much better in many ways for the amount of money. Tell me, why do I see smearing on my friend's computer on a 17" Dell LCD monitor.....maybe 12ms when he plays Half Life 2 on a Radeon 9800 pro? He had everything to maximum. I lowered the settings of anti-aliasing, antisotrophic filtering, resolution, and set the geometry to Bi rendering, not Tri rendering to low-end settings to boost the frames per second up high. The game still looked smeared on the LCD screen. I have played the demo on my computer with my CRT monitor and don't see any smearing, obviously.
Bottom line, 12 ms is still very noticable to observant eyes. I see your points. Thank you for pointing out my errors. I understand now. 8 ms is fairly noticable, and 4 ms is almost spot-on.
Bottom line, 12 ms is still very noticable to observant eyes. I see your points. Thank you for pointing out my errors. I understand now. 8 ms is fairly noticable, and 4 ms is almost spot-on.
Greg J. said:
you are comparing LCD to CRT...the quality is going to be different, be it 4ms or 20ms response time on the LCD. CRT i think is STILL better than LCD quality, even at 12ms.
Also, seriously, it's a Dell monitor. They don't make the best monitors. They might be best bang for your buck, but overall (throw budget out the window) they are not high quality compared to other brands.
xDarkWizardx
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If you wanted to spend even more money you could hook up four 42 inch plasma screens. Then you could have them all runnuing the matrix code backround and that would look badass 
timmah01
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Greg J.
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Quote: "you are comparing LCD to CRT...the quality is going to be different, be it 4ms or 20ms response time on the LCD. CRT i think is STILL better than LCD quality, even at 12ms."
Yeah, I gave him the suggestion of getting a top quality CRT monitor instead of using the LCD.....and a different, wider desk, to put all his crap on.
Yeah, I gave him the suggestion of getting a top quality CRT monitor instead of using the LCD.....and a different, wider desk, to put all his crap on.
Superior Child24
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Although they do overprice their product, they deserve props for creating their own designs and becoming such a large coorporation. I mean, I'd rather buy one of their computers than voodoo or predator and such.
Greg J. said:
CRT does have much better color depth than LCDs do, you're definitely right about that. Photo editors and such should definitely have a professional quality CRT in front of them, I'm thinking about buying a viewsonic solely for that purpose.
LCD technology is becoming better and better all the time, mostly noticed is the response time. Some monitors are down to 8ms, mine is 12ms(samsung 172x), and honestly i can't complain about the gaming, color is good for the most part, and I'm happy with it.
it all really depends on wether or not to get an LCD or CRT depending on your needs. a gamer that moves around a lot(Lanner), or just pushed for space, at 12ms or better LCD is definitely the way to go. or a coder, lcds are good for them as well.
anything else, CRT.
less expensive and better overall quality with the downfall of size. 
i would answer that but id prolly end up offending the smart ones ...
well since computers consist of, for lack of better terminology, "a box", they arent a part of that core .
because you cant get video array from anywhere else (of course thats time-sensitive)
but the neat thing is that they never said that (a) performance would be twice ... the speed certainly is though ... (b) as for power, this is a clever one -- they never said how they measure it ... if you have two 6800gts you use two power connectors, if you only have once 6800gt you only have one connector (granted this caveat ignores the definition of power ...)
easy on the zealot-mode
(although i feel ya entirely) comparing an lcd to a crt is like comparing a retard to a rhodes scholar)id argue 90% of users wont notice 8ms .
whats the d .p on them screens ?
not just that -- it's a business plain and simple -- they are out to make money -- if they find that they can price it as such and people will buy it then they will price it as such. being an ostensible product/logo doesnt help the consumer much
not all viewsonics (as im sad to say) are super duper monitors.
Regardless, this convo is getting wayyyy off topic....
xDarkWizardx
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Greg J.
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SONY PFM42X1/B Black 42" 16:9 Plasma Monitor - Retail
Built in Speakers: 7W x 2 Digital AMP
Dimensions (W×H×D): 40.8" x 24.9" x 4"
Display Colours: 1.06 Billion
Input Connectors: D-Sub, DVI, S-Video, Composite, Component, RCA
Input Video Compatibility: Analog RGB, NTSC, PAL, SECAM, NTSC4.43, PAL60, PAL-M, PAL-N
Native Resolution: 1024x768
Display Colours: 1.06 Billion
1.06 billion colors? It would be wise to have powerful, high-end video hardware.
OH!! And since computers are always outdated soon, an Alienware VALUE system might be the way to go.
Built in Speakers: 7W x 2 Digital AMP
Dimensions (W×H×D): 40.8" x 24.9" x 4"
Display Colours: 1.06 Billion
Input Connectors: D-Sub, DVI, S-Video, Composite, Component, RCA
Input Video Compatibility: Analog RGB, NTSC, PAL, SECAM, NTSC4.43, PAL60, PAL-M, PAL-N
Native Resolution: 1024x768
Display Colours: 1.06 Billion
1.06 billion colors? It would be wise to have powerful, high-end video hardware.
OH!! And since computers are always outdated soon, an Alienware VALUE system might be the way to go.
Lax
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Not soon, immediately. As soon as you build/buy/create/plan/think about it they become obsolete. At the rate technology is going it's really not worth it to "buy the newest stuff" because you've already bought outdated material. If anything you buy what you need to do what you want and stick with that until it's no longer compatible with the systems run. I know people that are still using 386 DX2's just because all they do is check email and use Word Perfect (no not the newest one).
P.s. just to get it back on topic.......IMO Alienware is very overpriced.