Am I the Only One!

Adam135

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Ok I’m seeing all this hype about Intel’s "Conroe" CPU. Am I the only one that is going to stay loyal to the AMD chip?

I have had no problems with the several AMD CPUs that I have had in the past. But the one Intel I bought ("Celeron") was the worst and it had to be replaced a number of times. I know that people here will bombard me with “My Celeron still works" or "Intel is better" Yes it is better if you do a lot of multi-tasking!

You see a lot of people selling their whole systems (Mostly AMD) to buy this Conroe!

Yes, it may be better. But next year AMD will produce a newer chip that is compatible with the Socket940, or as known as the AMD2. Once that happens people who bought the Conroe will be switching back once again.

I will be sticking with AMD, the known gaming chip. Once AMD lower the prices the chips will be so much cheaper, for example This, 70% off the Fx62!

70% off the FX62! Yes the Intel is 20% better but with a price! $999! SO the current price for a AMD Fx62 is $1,018.00 at the moment, 1018.00*0.70=712.6
1018.00-712.6=305.4!

$693.6 for 20% more!

Yes Intel will lower the price but so will AMD to keep in the running.

Buy a better Graphics card, More Ram, or a new HDD or Mobo.

Yes as I keep saying it is better (by 20%) but if you are not going to run extremely high applications then there is no point.

This is just my view, although many people will not agree with me some might..
 
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Am I the only one that is going to stay loyal to the AMD chip?

Why buy a CPU which costs more than certain Conroe chips, get worse performance, and then upgrade to AMD's latest chip next year? It makes absolutely no sense. I do not care who I spend my money on, as long as I know I have got a good deal.

If you do that, you will not be getting good performance for your money. I ask you, why buy a whole new FX-62 system, when you can get the E6300 (for $183), overclock it and have similar performance?

I will be sticking with AMD, the known gaming chip.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but that title is for the Conroe's now.

Yes as I keep saying it is better (by 20%) but if you are not going to run extremely high applications then there is no point.

So there is no point in spending less money on a CPU to get better performance, rather than spending more money on a CPU that isn't as powerful? Don't be silly...

Buy a better Graphics card, More Ram, or a new HDD or Mobo.

And your point is...? We are meant to be talking about CPU's here. If you buy a better graphics card, it doesn't mean your PC will run faster. There would be no point in buying a 7900GTX and pairing it with a Celeron D. The thing that is holding you back is your CPU.
 
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And Socket 940 and AM2 aren't the same. The pin count is the same but they're not compatible with each other, ie. you can't use a socket 940 CPU in a AM2 socket and vice versa.
 
People always gather around the new best chip, just like when the X2 came out, it was considered the fastest desktop processor and no intel could beat it.

I agree with you're logic, i'm most likely going to get an X2 a while after Conroe comes out, since it's going to take companies such as newegg a couple weeks before lowereing the price to what AMD says they'll charge.

That, and Conroe is going to be backordered for a while, and the demand will push newegg to raising the prices dramatically to make more money.
 
Adam135 said:
But next year AMD will produce a newer chip that is compatible with the Socket940, or as known as the AMD2.

Oh, and I think you mean AM3, although I may be wrong. AM2's socket will support AM3 CPU's.
 
I did think the AM2 is compatable with the newer AM3, but i was not sure.

Some of the chips for the AM3 will over power the Conroe.

So just hold on for AMD to come back into the market.
 
I stay loyal to AMD just because I don't like big companies like Intel. For the same reason I would go for Firefox, and Linux (but NOT Mac)
 
Bobo said:
I stay loyal to AMD just because I don't like big companies like Intel. For the same reason I would go for Firefox, and Linux (but NOT Mac)
So what if they had the Conroe E6600 for $297, and the X2 3800+ for $297, what would you buy?

And Socket 940 and AM2 are completely different, and there not compatible with each other.
 
I hear in the future AMD will be releasing a 65nm CPU, wonder how that will compare to the intel conroe CPUs. hmmmm.
 
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[-0MEGA-] said:
So what if they had the Conroe E6600 for $297, and the X2 3800+ for $297, what would you buy?
Considering my situation right now, and if I had the money, I would buy the X2, solely because I already have an AMD setup. If I was building a new system in a week, I would have built Conroe, because it is better. But regardless of which I choose, I will always like AMD more.
 
Bobo said:
Considering my situation right now, and if I had the money, I would buy the X2, solely because I already have an AMD setup. If I was building a new system in a week, I would have built Conroe, because it is better. But regardless of which I choose, I will always like AMD more.

I share the same opinion. For some reason, I have always preferred AMD over Intel (probably because of how they dominate the market). But I am getting the Conroe, because I feel it's time for an upgrade, and the best out right now is Conroe.

Adam135 said:
I did think the AM2 is compatable with the newer AM3, but i was not sure.

You must be more specific. Saying "AM2 is compatable with the newer AM3" doesn't actually make much sense. Are you talking about the socket or CPU? As I said, AM2's socket will support AM3 CPU's, not vice versa.

Adam135 said:
Some of the chips for the AM3 will over power the Conroe.

So just hold on for AMD to come back into the market.

Your logic doesn't make any sense to me. I understand what you are saying, but if you apply that to technology then you are always going to be waiting. Technology advances all the time, I bet half a year later after AM3 CPU's are available, Intel will be back in business. It is an ever-changing market which will never stop improving as long as there is competition (i.e. AMD and Intel are competitors).

Also, would you like to back up that statement with some evidence? I don't believe you have any proper evidence for that statement, I think you are just assuming that AMD will come out with something better.
 
I'm with Omega, I will eventually get a conroe, but right now im getting a x2 system, because there will be a price drop on AMDs.
 
wicked859 said:
I'm with Omega, I will eventually get a conroe, but right now im getting a x2 system, because there will be a price drop on AMDs.

I don't think Omega said anything about him buying a Conroe... :confused:

Why are you going to buy an X2, then buy a Conroe? Why don't you just leave out the cost of an X2 and go straight to Conroe? There's no point in getting both...
 
1018.00*0.70=712.6
1018.00-712.6=305.4!
your logic is as good as your math :D
But next year AMD will produce a newer chip that is compatible with the Socket940, or as known as the AMD2.
socket name = wrong
name of chip = wrong
date of release, they said in q207 but that may slip :D :D
Oh, and I think you mean AM3, although I may be wrong. AM2's socket will support AM3 CPU's.
I did think the AM2 is compatable with the newer AM3, but i was not sure.
just to be clear [rambo i think your already clear]
AM3 cpus CAN be used on AM2 boards
AM2 cpus CANNOT ne used on AM3 boards
at least thats the official line thus far

Some of the chips for the AM3 will over power the Conroe.
where did you here that, was it from an AMD spokesman :)
Firstly I feel a panic attack coming.... just when i got people to stop refering to the AM2 as a cpu... then AMD go and release the AM3 now i have to bloody start all over again
AM3 = Socket
Conroe = CPU

the K8L is thought to be first cpu to come out on the AM3, and it mainly focused at reducing the latency issues they had with ddr2 which made AM2 such a useless upgrade


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i wil prolly wait for the K8l to come out and itll own conroe.
care to bet?
 
Rambo said:
I don't think Omega said anything about him buying a Conroe... :confused:
I most likely won't buy a Conroe, by the time the X2 gets outdated, Kentsfield will be here, or maybe it will last me longer until AM3. Who knows...
 
[-0MEGA-] said:
I most likely won't buy a Conroe, by the time the X2 gets outdated, Kentsfield will be here, or maybe it will last me longer until AM3. Who knows...

I'm not upgrading or building till the next AMD chip comes out....
 
Have you guys been keeping up with AMD's prices?

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All the talk about how AMd's chips are more expensive, but perform worse...is soon to change.

On a more negative note - Journal of Pervasive 64 bit Computing: Conroe performance claim being busted
 
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