AM2 is a dissapointment...

Wow, that is just horrible... That really sucks, i thought the AM2 where going to be crazy good. "IT feels like someone has just deflated my heart"
 
Im waiting to see what the conroe benches in games, i've only seen it in cpu tests (any by the way, it did ALOT better than the X2 does in those tests).

As some of us have been saying before, AM2 is basically the same thing as the current X2, except it has a new memory controller that allows DDR2.

And the main reason why it performs better in games (slightly), is because of the faster RAM, if it was the same speed there probably wouldnt be any difference.
 
Encore4More said:
no it isn't against the FX60, it is agaisnt the X2 2.8GHz which is still beastly... me want conroe...:)
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The X2 2.8Ghz is faster than the FX-60, so it would be even better against it at stock.
 
Encore4More said:
no it isn't against the FX60, it is agaisnt the X2 2.8GHz which is still beastly... me want conroe...:)
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Read closer.
Straight from that Anandtech review said:
Intel setup two identical systems: in one corner, an Athlon 64 FX-60 overclocked to 2.8GHz running on a DFI RD480 motherboard. And in the other corner, a Conroe running at 2.66GHz (1067MHz FSB) on an Intel 975X motherboard.
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the am2 is just a new socket type allowing ddr2 memory control. they have not released anything about any NEW processors. am2 will not be any more of a disappointment than 939 was.... conroe is a PROCESSOR, am2 is a SOCKET TYPE. wait for new chip architectures in 2007. until then, the conroe (if released on schedule) will rule the remainder of the year. thank you, good day.
 
if am2 ends up not yielding a HUGE increase over the current dual core lineup, i'll probably stick with my setup now and aim to get a more powerful dual core processor and DEFINITELY a new graphics card.
 
[-0MEGA-] said:
Im waiting to see what the conroe benches in games, i've only seen it in cpu tests (any by the way, it did ALOT better than the X2 does in those tests).

As some of us have been saying before, AM2 is basically the same thing as the current X2, except it has a new memory controller that allows DDR2.

And the main reason why it performs better in games (slightly), is because of the faster RAM, if it was the same speed there probably wouldnt be any difference.
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The main reason AMD performs better in games is mainly due to the fact that it has an onboard memory controller. With that, it has a shorter instruction lengths vs. Intels motherboard memory controllers. AMD chips are for lack of a better term, quicker because of the shorter pipes and less stages. They can execute instructions much quicker. The only reason Intels do so well in larger applications such as video editing is because it takes advantage of those longer stages where they can crank out some serious power.

The only reason Conroe is doing so well is because they have taken the old netburst technology, got rid of it and went back to a much wider pipe which in turn, makes the instruction sets shorter with less stages. They also threw in more L2 cache which is a unified cache for both cores.
 
Encore4More said:
no it isn't against the FX60, it is agaisnt the X2 2.8GHz which is still beastly... me want conroe...:)
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The tests that Intel conducted were using one of their mainstream conroe 2.66Ghz vs. an overclocked FX-60 running at 2.8Ghz. The reason that the BIOS in the picture they posted during the IDF was not showing it as the FX-60 is because the machine was using the original version of the BIOS. DFI had instituted a BIOS update which added FX-60 support for that board Intel used.

As far as AM2 performance goes, right now it doesn't look great but, what this will allow AMD to do is, take their processors up in Ghz which will allow them to utilize the higher speed RAM and that's when we will see gains made from the AM2 platform.
 
wait for new chip architectures in 2007
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AMD has nothing interseting on the current roadmap, I don't think they have too much going on as far as a new core design is concerned. Unless they have a new design under very tight wraps it'll be later than 2007 before a new architecture comes from them.
 
SuperPI 1M @ stock 2.4GHz = 21S

Now lets see what 6 months of optimization can do, should be even better. Not bad for an supposedly $316 chip.

DailyTech.com
 

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