Am3+ Question

CrayonMuncher

CrayonMuncher

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Is my understanding correct that you will be able to move am3/am2 cpus on to the new am3+ socket but you will not be able to put am3+ on previous sockets?

If so that is awesome, i love how amd like to try to retain some kind of compatibility so i can buy a new mobo and shove my old cpu in until i have enough for the new architecture.
Intel on the other hand seem to love to make you buy a whole new platform and never seem to have any backwards or forwards compatibility. LGA 1156 to lga 1155 for example.
 
You can use a AM3 processor on a AM3+ board. But not a AM2 or AM2+. AM3+ boards will only be DDR3.

And right, Bulldozer will (not) be backward compatible to AM3.
 
ahhh am3 only not am2 or am2+, i will have am3 soon anyway so that is good.

The way amd do this really makes me much more favouable to them than intel, even though intel is the performance king, its nice they make it a bit easier for a consumer to upgrade without to much cost straight off the bat.
 
It seems like a nice theory, but what does the new motherboard really gain you? Am3 supports ddr3 already, so why bother buying a whole new motherboard before the CPU instead of saving up for both when the motherboard will probably be cheaper?
 
I agree. Dont even really see the point of having AM3 processors compatible with socket AM3+ boards, no performance gain. I would just have had a new socket and been done with it. If your upgrading you would be better off going for a board and processor at the same time, even if you have to save up.
 
StrangleHold said:
I agree. Dont even really see the point of having AM3 processors compatible with socket AM3+ boards, no performance gain. I would just have had a new socket and been done with it. If your upgrading you would be better off going for a board and processor at the same time, even if you have to save up.
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What if you are on AM3 and are saving for AM3+. You have enough for the motherboard, or the CPU, but not both, then out of nowhere, your preferred retailer has an amazing offer on an AM3+ motherboard, so you get it, and can use it, whilst selling your current AM3 motherboard whilst it is worth more, to get more money towards your shiny new AM3+ build.

Just 1 reason, I suppose, but it will make more sense if they do as they did with AM2/AM2+/AM3, and make it so (assumption on name here) some AM4 CPU's will work on AM3+, so you can go:

CPU/Mobo
AM3/AM3
AM3/AM3+
AM4/AM3+
AM4/AM4

then you would be seeing performance gain, but staggering the costs. It would be better to get them in 1 go though I suppose, prices will be less once you have saved for a bit, so overall it will cost less, even though you have to put up with worse performance for a bit
 
Aastii said:
What if you are on AM3 and are saving for AM3+. You have enough for the motherboard, or the CPU, but not both, then out of nowhere, your preferred retailer has an amazing offer on an AM3+ motherboard, so you get it, and can use it, whilst selling your current AM3 motherboard whilst it is worth more, to get more money towards your shiny new AM3+ build.

Just 1 reason, I suppose, but it will make more sense if they do as they did with AM2/AM2+/AM3, and make it so (assumption on name here) some AM4 CPU's will work on AM3+, so you can go:

CPU/Mobo
AM3/AM3
AM3/AM3+
AM4/AM3+
AM4/AM4

then you would be seeing performance gain, but staggering the costs. It would be better to get them in 1 go though I suppose, prices will be less once you have saved for a bit, so overall it will cost less, even though you have to put up with worse performance for a bit
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Getting ahead of yourself with AM4:D. Yeah the bummer about buying a board first would be, by the time you saved for the processor better boards would be released.

I would like to know what the performance hit would have been making it compatible with AM3 socket. Whether its was taking a hit on AM3 boards. Or they would had to change the processor and it would have took a performance hit even on a AM3+ board. If it was a overall hit on both boards, I can understand why they didnt make it compatible for AM3.
 
StrangleHold said:
Getting ahead of yourself with AM4:D. Yeah the bummer about buying a board first would be, by the time you saved for the processor better boards would be released.

I would like to know what the performance hit would have been making it compatible with AM3 socket. Whether its was taking a hit on AM3 boards. Or they would had to change the processor and it would have took a performance hit even on a AM3+ board. If it was a overall hit on both boards, I can understand why they didnt make it compatible for AM3.
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hehe yea I know, but I think it is more than likely that AM4 will be announced, if not released, with in the next 12 months, or whatever the equivalent would be, and judging by the naming system from AM2 to AM3, AM3+ should support them
 
I'm really interested in what Bulldozer desktop is going to be called. Kinda odd they haven't said. They put out the Phenom name almost a year before the original was released. The core for the desktop is Zambezi. I hope its not going to be Phenom III. A new architecture needs a new name.
 
StrangleHold said:
I'm really interested in what Bulldozer desktop is going to be called. Kinda odd they haven't said. They put out the Phenom name almost a year before the original was released. The core for the desktop is Zambezi. I hope its not going to be Phenom III. A new architecture needs a new name.
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Yea I hope it isn't Phenom III as well, would be nice to both have something new. However I'd prefer an actual name, rather than like Intel have done with i3, i5 and i7. I know it is marketing, but it sounds like so little thought and effort has gone into it
 
Plus I don't like this three levels of performance. i3/i5/i7 and Sempron/Athlon/Phenom. Clutters the market with to many models. To many over lap each other in performance, plus adds to manufactures cost.


If its called Phenom III. They will have a Phenom III/Athlon III/ and what ever the Sempron will be. Then the AMD Fusion CPU/GPU is going to be a 32 nm. Phenom core and one later with the Bulldozer core. And probably different levels in the Fusion line too. And to add to that. There will be a X2/X3/X4/X6/X8 in each line up. lol

I mean man, that needs to be simplified some:D
 
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I think that Intel really messed up with Sandy Bridge naming. Since they're keeping the same friggin i3/i5/i7 thing, people are going to say "hey, I already have that, I don't need an upgrade!" What marketing genius came up with that?

As a side note, I think that Bulldozer should be called "AMD Epicness." I would buy that. :D
 
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