amd 64 3000 or amd 64 2800?

no problem. I did not mean to be rude either but I did not want bigshow to go out and buy DDR2 ram to find it wont fit.
 
don't worry about that,, i didn't take it bad... i just thought i wad on to something with that..

i am going to go ahead spec out a comp for $650 anyways tho...
would this be in american or canadian funds???
 
Bigshow1030 said:
so If I gave you $650 dollars to build the best system you could what would you go with?
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does that money include monitor and speakers and software needed or just the computer it self?
 
yeah

money does not include monitor because I have already gotten one.....basically 650 for mobo, cpu, ram , video card, harddrive(s)....that is it and it is in american money
 
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1213247&CatId=1619 ($299.99)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=235775 ($79.99)x2

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=576586 ($119.99)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1082402&CatId=880 ($79.99)

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Processor
ASUS A8V Deluxe Via Socket 939 ATX Motherboard
Kingston 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory
Seagate / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-150 / Hard Drive
nVidia GeForce FX 5500 / 128MB DDR / AGP 8X / VGA / DVI / TV Out

$660 + taxes @ tigerdirect.com :)
 
Bigshow1030 said:
on the memory you picked out why does it say cL3? is that class 3 and what does that mean ?
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refers to the cas level. The CAS level refers to your memory’s latency, the time it takes for your memory to respond when given instructions. Lower numbers are better; CL2 is faster memory than CL2.5, which is in turn faster than memory rated at CL3.
 
If I am putting this in and don't plan on overclocking will I have to mess with the voltage at all?
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No

I had seen some reviews where they said it was running sluggish until they altered voltages
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And which reviews might this be?

In all reality what advantage is there in going with the 939 pin as opposed to the 754?
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1. Didnt you already ask this?
2. Faster HTT/HTL, dual channel

do you want DDR or DDR2???
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Inconsequential, AMD doesnt have a DDR2 solution yet

939's tend to run cooler as well which makes them prime targets for oc'ing
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You mean Socket754s tend to run cooler .... (of course I am aware that comparing a D-Rev Socket939 to a E-Rev socket939 illustrates a significant drop in temps)

Is there a whole lot of difference when it comes to price on ddr 2 and also if I am running ddr 2 will that make the computer move that much faster?
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Wont matter. DDR2 is not supported by AMD as of yet

so in all reality if I do decide to jump to the 939 pin it would be wise to upgrade memory also correct?
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No

if u could finish that off with a WD Raptor SATA drive, at 10k or 15k RPM, than you would be set
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I might consider buying you a drink if you manage to find me a 15K Raptor SATA drive

yes, upgrading to dual channel DDR (DDR2), would be a really nice upgrade to your pc...
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But given the low-latnecies of the on-die memory controller, its not an earthshattering improvement

so If I gave you $650 dollars to build the best system you could what would you go with?
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Out the door...really fast. To answer the question, I'd buy my system minus 2 HDDs and upping the mobo to a NF3-U

then how come every retailer i've been to classes them as the same thing, and how come my friends comp is running DDR2 on his mobo??
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Because the retailers are friggen idiots and your friend is bullshitting you if he's got DDR2 running in an AMD system (sorry to sound harsh :P)
 
Praetor said:
I might consider buying you a drink if you manage to find me a 15K Raptor SATA drive
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i have seen one on the WD site for purchase but it is really expensive...lol

Praetor said:
Because the retailers are friggen idiots and your friend is bullshitting you if he's got DDR2 running in an AMD system (sorry to sound harsh :P)
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isn't that that the truth, i haven't figured out why i even listen to them... my friend showed me the bill, so i guess it wasn't just the salesman who was classifying it as such.. :)
 
thanks

I am just trying to figure out if I went the right way or not with my system......I really wish dfi would come out with a better motherboard than the one that I have got.........dfi lanparty ut nf3 250.
 
They make SCSI harddrives at 15k
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Yes but those are Seagates ... not WDs.

I really wish dfi would come out with a better motherboard than the one that I have got.........dfi lanparty ut nf3 250.
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Why? It doesnt get much better than that
 
Yes and neither Fujitsu nor Seagate are WDs ;) ... in anycase, we're getting off topic here :)
 
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