Ok my friend and I are both building computers and we are having a big battle over it. He thinks he is the king and knows it all. But I know that the amd 64 is advanced technology that isen't even out at the moment. He told me "good luck finding software to work on your cpu whenever there will be none for another 5yrs." Is it true that Amd 64 will not be to full potential for another 5yrs atleast? And if this is true what is the point is buying a 64 now? Not to be ready I hope if it is true that it will take another 5yrs cause by then it should be time for a new upgrade I believe.
Amd 64 worthless?
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5 years? some are already running 64 bit windows xp (beta) games such as farcry and a couple of others... one of which is a true 64 bit game although I cannot remember the title of that game as I was not interested. 64 bit processers are super fast for 32 bit apps though and are ready for 64 bit so when your friend "Pretends" to know what he is talking about mention to him that he will be throwing out his pc to be able to run 64 bit apps and games in the future when you wont have too.
Also anyone interested in linux will be able to run 64 bit versions of the linux OS that are already out and yadda yadda yadda... Dont forget that 64 bit AMDs have the memory controller built into the cpu making memory speeds that much faster.
I could go on all day but i'll finish off there.
Also anyone interested in linux will be able to run 64 bit versions of the linux OS that are already out and yadda yadda yadda... Dont forget that 64 bit AMDs have the memory controller built into the cpu making memory speeds that much faster.
I could go on all day but i'll finish off there.
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Windows XP 64-Bit edition will be out soon and longhorn will have a 64-bit edition and after that there will probably on be 64-bit editions.
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Phippsp said:
First of all a amd 64 can run any software both 64 bit and 32 bit. You can put anything on amd machine and it will work fine. There other reason to choose a athlon 64 besides the fact it 64 bit. My choice to buy a athlon 64 had nothing to do with the fact it 64 bit. It had to do with the HT running at 2000. It had to do with it performs much better then athlon xp. It had to do with the fact that it performs better then anything else on video games(depending on the exact model you choose). If you going to buy a athlon 64 now it should be for it greater performance not because it 64 bits.
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ethernet said:
Windows XP Professional x64 bit edition
Every 64-bit computer will work fine with 32-bit programs and OS. It's just that it can handle 64-bit processes.
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tomprice43 said:
Since it's in alpha state, don't stick to them since they are maybe unstable.
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Tell your friend I personally called him a "misinformed idiot fonting as know-it-all"
There's been 64bit software support for the last decade -- meaning people have looked at the 64bit environment for quite some time (anyone remember Alpha-500s ... they were 64bit)Consider FarCry, UT, RedMercury as three quick games. Consider Mathematica, and Solidworks (i think) as two applications. Consider the craploads of video editing applications out there.
LOL maybe it's unstable?
Either it is [unstable] or it isnt hehe. In all honesty its pretty damn friggen stable.Well you bought one didnt you? 'sides, from the AMD side, AMD has discontinued its 32bit processor series for the mainstream processors.
- Non dedicated 32bit platform -- this is where dualcore could have made a steller debut
- Shitty inital chipsets from both Via and nVidia
- On-die memory controller means greater performance but you're crippled by it when it comes to upgrading
- 64bit and 32bit "compatible" means fuhk-all nothing if it doesnt work well and compared to dedicated 64bit and 32bit platforms, the Athlon64 gets pwnd (this goes for the EMT64s as well)
- Hypertransport is not a special feature of Athlon64s nor 64bit computing and for the average user, doesnt offer all that much benifit over a FSB.
- AMD has not yet (and i dont forsee this) and will not [foreseeably] ever scale as well as Intel in SMP environments (which where their 64bit muscle really shines -- on machines and setups that (a) can use more than 4GB and (b) for people that do stuff involving more than 4GB of memory per CPU at a time)
- In a consumer environment, lack of HyperThreading -- overrated yes, a novelty yes but usefull from time to time (more often than you'd think -- and yes, in games as well)
Huh?
Except nonserver setups cant handle more than 4GB of RAM so thats a moot point (now if you wanna get deep into the server wars thats a whooole different ballgame)
Well Athlon64s (the chips in question) arent exactly server chips whereas Opterons are [server chips]. It would be nice to see some kind of "small business server" oriented motherboard where they used Athlon64s (much like the way back-in-the-day where one could use a pair of TBirds in place of MPs) ... doubt thats doable since the A64s are missing a pair of HTLs