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TheChef

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Whats the slowest Athlon XP processor that is worth buying becasue it wont be obsolete in a week. :confused:
 
TheChef said:
Whats the slowest Athlon XP processor that is worth buying becasue it wont be obsolete in a week. :confused:

1700+ with the right stepping are fun to play with...but there "obsolete". i'd go with the mobile 2400+. cheap and overclocks like mad too. for a few $ more u can get a 2600+
 
i'm not a huge fan of mobile processors. i did some checking just now and my processor has went down considerably...it's about 115-130 bucks.
lot of people dig the mobiles, i just don't.
neweggs prices are high too...180 for my barton and i have found it for 120.
*shrugs*
 
Grimulus said:
i'm not a huge fan of mobile processors.

what dont u like about them? they're cheaper, cooler (temp wise lol), still have 512k L2 cache like a desktop barton, overclock considerably more than any XP barton desktop...i cant seem to think of anything that would turn someone away from them.
 
Praetor said:
They're not (always) cheaper

true...but who buys a mobile at a store and pays too much? u gotta be pretty lazy to not order from neeweegg or somewhere cheap.
 
People typically get mobiles because their multipliers are not locked. Makes for good overclocking. Newer standard amd chips multipiers are lock rendering it harder to do certain things in the overclocking arena.
 
true...but who buys a mobile at a store and pays too much? u gotta be pretty lazy to not order from neeweegg or somewhere cheap
I dont buy online mostly because i can get better prices from stores i frequent.
 
morkys said:
If the mobile 2400 XP-M has a 512 L2 cache, isn't the mobile 2400 a Barton?

Sure is, i think the 35watters might be Tbred's though. But the 45watters should be a Barton.
 
If the mobile 2400 XP-M has a 512 L2 cache, isn't the mobile 2400 a Barton?
Sure is, i think the 35watters might be Tbred's though. But the 45watters should be a Barton.
Its only a barton if its running a 333/400 BUS which it isnt. Its running a 266. So you can call it a TBred Mobile with extra cache :)
 
Why do they advertise the 2600+ as a Barton then? I think they just hack the FSB down when shipped, as they will run 200+ easily.
Whether they run 200 or not is kinda ireelevant, a "Barton" is a pseudo-defined as being a chip that has a 0.13 process, 512K L2 and a 333/400 BUS ... the Mobiles have most of that down pat and they probably are the 333/400 and just downclocked but dont forget that not everyone cares/wants to overclock ... and for those people, the mobile chips are a bad route to go :)

The reason *I* suggested it be called TBredMobile+Extra Cache is because , for AMD chips, the cache isnt that big of a deal (as it is for intel for instance) .. the FSB helps more (for test purposes you can compare a desktop Barton @ 266/333/400 against a TBredB @ 266/333/400)

As for the link ... whats that sipposed to show me? (i.e., it loads crap all nothing) :)
 
Praetor said:
but dont forget that not everyone cares/wants to overclock ... and for those people, the mobile chips are a bad route to go :)

As for the link ... whats that sipposed to show me? (i.e., it loads crap all nothing) :)

is running 200*10 considered overclocking since its still 2000MHz (stock speed)? whenever i build a PC for someone who does not want to overclock or have to deal with it i usually just go with 200*10 (if its a 2400+ or 2GHz stock). It requires no extra voltage or anything and gives a small performance boost over 166*12 or w/e stock is.

The link was just sposed to be to a retail 2600+ showing how they advertise tham as bartons. guess i put wrong one in there. don;t matter anywyas:)
 
is running 200*10 considered overclocking since its still 2000MHz (stock speed)?
1. WHAT are you running at 200x10.0?
2. To answer your question -- is 200 the stock FSB? If yes then you are not overclocking. If the core was not 200 then you are over/under-clocking (even if the net speed is the same) ... why? Because upping that core speed not just affects the CPU but other thingies :)
 
Praetor said:
1. WHAT are you running at 200x10.0?
2. To answer your question -- is 200 the stock FSB? If yes then you are not overclocking. If the core was not 200 then you are over/under-clocking (even if the net speed is the same) ... why? Because upping that core speed not just affects the CPU but other thingies :)

I was referring to the 2400+ sry. It is stock 166FSB i believe.

What other things does it change besides FSB? It doesn't effect PCI/AGP bus, or memory bus (a divider will keep memory at stock even with ramped up FSB). Is there anything else the FSB effectS?
 
What other things does it change besides FSB? It doesn't effect PCI/AGP bus, or memory bus (a divider will keep memory at stock even with ramped up FSB). Is there anything else the FSB effectS?
Not all machines have (working) dividers :)
 
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