An affordable gaming machine

jmarsico

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I tend to be very long-winded even when I try otherwise, so forgive me if this post becomes way too long or wordy.

First, a brief background. I'm going into my junior year at college, and for the past two years I've used a crappy laptop computer provided by my school. It got the job done, allowing me to write papers, do research, and perform other school-related tasks, but it really stifled my hobby in computer games. The laptop choked even on the original Halo running at the barest settings, so I was stuck mainly with old-school RPGs. (Don't get me wrong, those older games are some of my all-time favorites, but you can only play so much of them. Everyone loves a good 3D FPS now and again.)

This year, though, I've moved out of the school dorms and am living in a house off-campus, so the laptop is no longer necessary. I used to be able to lug it over to the library and hook myself up to write a paper there, but that trip is no longer practical and so I can get away with being tied down to a desktop. I'm looking forward to the advantages of a desktop, too - it'll be cheaper, for one thing, and I wouldn't have as much of a problem with overheating (which was a constant concern with the laptop).

So, now that the (probably unnecessary) background is out of the way, let me present my case. Long story short, I'd like to build a desktop that will be solid enough for serious gaming, but won't kill my bank account. I know that the two desires are usually mutually exclusive, but hopefully you all can help me put something together. I did see the thread at the top of the forum offering some general advice, but maybe there are other comments that can be made specific to my situation.

I don't have a specific price ceiling, but if it could be kept below the US$800 range it would be ideal. Lower is obviously better, but I could maybe go higher if there were some significant gain to be made for a bit of extra cash. Also, I don't need a monitor at the moment, but I may look into that later.

The machine should be able to handle basic tasks, of course - word processing, maybe some light graphics manipulation and that sort of thing - but it will be built for games above all else. I don't really have "expensive" taste in games, but I would like to be able to reach a certain level. That is, I'm not into all of the latest shooters and other hugely demanding games, but I did get addicted to Oblivion on my desktop at home (which barely ran it with all the settings turned down) and would like to be able to run it comfortably. Any other game I would be playing falls far below the requirements of Oblivion, and so if I could put something together that runs Oblivion then I know everything else would work out alright.

One more question, then I'll cut it off for now: I am not computer illiterate, but technology is not exactly my specialty, either, so will I be able to assemble something on my own? I've managed minor upgrades with no problem, including things as simple as installing a new graphics card or hard drive or stick of RAM, but I'm afraid I would be getting in over my head if I tried to build an entire rig from scratch. Is that the case, or is the process straightforward enough that a reasonably intelligent fella could figure it out?

Thanks for trudging through my little dissertation, I eagerly await any comments.
 
Yes, you'll be able to assemble it...its really not as daunting as people make it out to be. Give me a few min and I'll try to come up with something for you. I'm assuming you need an OS?
 
Case/PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208008
$65

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115013
$115

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130073
$115

Dvd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106073
$42

HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148230
$54

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145167
$70

MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188017
$110

OS
Microsoft Vista 64-bit
$120


Total=$691 before shipping/tax. With this you should get pretty good performance on your average games on average settings. I'm assuming you have input devices as well, so I didn't add those. Hope this helps!
 
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OP didn't specify if he needed an OS or not, but Froboy didn't account for one and that's gonna put you at almost a grand if you do need it. If you could afford it though his ideas aren't bad at all, the 8800gts is a great card. Obviously if your budget was maybe 2 or 3 hundred dollars more you could get significantly better performance, but what I suggested will get you by just fine. "Serious" gaming is a relative term, but if your not spending upwards of 2k, in my opinion, serious gaming is out of the question. Let us know if you have any more questions.
 
Oops, i linked to the wrong vid card. Theres nothing wrong with that dvd drive, like he said, hes not doing anything overtasking. And I know case PSUs aren't the best, but he's on a budget.
 
Wow, I post something in the hopes of seeing a reply or two in the next few days and, upon checking a few hours later, I find seven replies. You guys are amazing.

I would need an OS, yeah - would that add too much to the price? I guess it is $100+ now that I think about it... But, in any case, I do have a few quick questions about that: what are the advantages of Vista over XP? Is the price difference worth any improvement? Would one or the other be better for games? Would my older games not run on the newer OS?

What do you mean by "input devices"? (Like I said, I'm not technically proficient...I feel like I "should" know what you're talking about, but I'm not positive and I'd like to be sure.)

Would these parts give me reasonable settings in Oblivion? Can any computer below $1k or so even run Oblivion, or am I just wasting my time? I know it's a pretty hulking game, and I hope I'm not asking for something impossible.

If there are any gains that could be made by tacking on a bit extra to the budget, I'm sure I could handle that. The only issue is that I'm financing it all with a summer job, and so any extra money I spend is drained directly from the money that I'll have to spend over the course of the school semester. However, if a large enough gain could be made for a price that is comparably small enough, I'd be more than willing to give it a try.
 
Yeah, you're definitely going to see better performance if you can shell out a bit more. And yes, you'll be able to run Oblivion. Not at the top settings, but it'll run nonetheless. By input devices, I mean a mouse, keyboard, etc. Anything you enter commands into the computer with. Regarding the OS, I would go with Vista simply because future games will utilize its capabilities. While theres nothing wrong with XP, Vista is going to be more future-proof. Granted, it has had its share of driver issues, but most of these have been ironed out.
Heres some suggestions if you can afford it:
Get the 320mb 8800gts vid card (assuming you don't plan to game at huge resolutions).

Case PSUs aren't always reliable. If you can, get a separate case and PSU.

The E6600 is a great CPU, but costs $230.

July 22nd is going to bring some Intel price slashes. If you can wait, it might be worth your while.
 
Great, thanks again for the promptness.

I'll have no problem waiting until July, I think, especially if it'll save me some money. I'm not in a huge hurry to get this done with, so thanks for giving me a heads-up there.

One more small question for the moment. It's a little silly, actually, but I thought I might throw it out there - what's the story with all those nifty lights and lamps and whatnot that people decorate their cases with? I know somebody who has a higher end machine that's got all sorts of LED lights blinking and flashing in and on the case, and it looks pretty cool, and while it is sort of whimsical and unnecessary I was thinking that, hey, it doesn't hurt. Not that my budget leaves a lot of room for "extras," especially ones that don't do anything for performance, but I'm just curious. Kind of a sucker for eye candy and all that.
 
The LED lights you see are usually included in the case you get. Usually they're fans that have lights attached to them. If you like this, just get a case with a window on the side and one that included these lights.
 
And if you are still unsure if you can assemble one,have faith. If someone my age can do it, any of you brainiaks :D can... Good luck, just remember CF is here to help:cool:

Also welcome to Computer Forum!
 
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Thanks for the encouragement, I look forward to actually diving into the whole thing once July rolls around, since I've been convinced to wait until then when some parts get a little cheaper.

As long as I'm waiting, I'm a bit curious - why would Intel be cutting prices in July? And by how much?
 
Prices are going down by quite a bit. In some cases, a couple hundred bucks. You'll be able to get a very good processor for under $200 after the slash. I think its due to upcoming releases and competition with AMD. I may be wrong on that though...anyone?
 
That's great news.

Ok, I've thought up another question. I'm sure this kind of format is getting annoying, with me throwing out another trivial question every few hours, but I'm just writing things as they come to mind...

How about sound? Graphics are, of course, the first priority, but are there any suggestions for speakers, maybe? How about a sound card?
 
You could go with a sound card, but for your budget's sake, I'd just stay with onboard audio. It should be sufficient. As for speakers, you have a ton of choices. Personally I like headsets, as I play games that have voice support.
 
What kind of speakers are you looking for? Theres tons of choices from your basic two channel system to 7.1 and above.
 
I don't know much at all about sound, so I wouldn't know what kind of speakers I would need or even want. I do have a pretty solid pair of headphones, so I guess it isn't a big deal either way. But, is there some set of speakers that is a good balance of quality and price that stands out in anyone's head? Something on the cheaper side preferably, of course...heh heh.

Are sound cards all that expensive? For some reason I was thinking that they really don't cost very much at all, but I'm not sure where I would have gotten that idea.
 
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